DCP Who Is 4 Weeks In Now Says That Her 2yo Seems Sensitive To Gluten And Dairy

[mommyneedsadayoff]

It really does not matter if you are convinced. She is asking for dietary considerations and as a provider you either provide it or don't. Oral reactions are swelling of the mouth, tongue or rash. Unfortunately most people think intolerances are fake.



I was simply giving an idea of why she might want the menu in advance. It is hard to meet all of the state dietary requirements as care providers and it takes a lot of planning so you expect a mom to do it over night?! I wanted to give the other side of this, as a mom with a kid with an intolerance who is just learning about it (if this was just learned about).



Sometimes you cannot actually provide actual proof of a dietary intolerance or sensitivity. It often does not show up on allergy tests. Unfortunately you either take the parents word for it, adopt the new diet or terminate the parent.

I totally understand what you are saying, but in this case, it is not adding up. Dck is home with a nanny for two years where parents control the food. Parents say they avoid dairy and gluten at home, yet accept that it is served at dc. Parents then say that dck has never showed oral sensitivity to foods they never served, yet they knew those foods would be served. I am curious as to what diet this child received at home. And I am curious as to why they would sign up for a dc that serves foods they do not serve at home. Either they honestly didn't know, or they thought they could change the menu after they started and had paid money to be there. It is odd, yet not very uncommon.

[Ariana]

I totally understand what you are saying, but in this case, it is not adding up. Dck is home with a nanny for two years where parents control the food. Parents say they avoid dairy and gluten at home, yet accept that it is served at dc. Parents then say that dck has never showed oral sensitivity to foods they never served, yet they knew those foods would be served. I am curious as to what diet this child received at home. And I am curious as to why they would sign up for a dc that serves foods they do not serve at home. Either they honestly didn't know, or they thought they could change the menu after they started and had paid money to be there. It is odd, yet not very uncommon.

It is quite possible, again just playing devils advocate, that she never gave her kid those foods until the daycare and that it was only then that her kid reacted to the food. For example my kids have never ever had milk so I cannot tell you how they might react if it was given because we don't have it. I know how they react to cheese and yogurt. Sometimes when they go to my parents they get things they are not supposed to get (because my parents are idiots and think sensitivities are fake) then my kid will have some reaction and I need to ask what they had to eat. Sometimes they are having things that we simply do not eat so they might be reacting to that foreign food or they might be reacting to dairy...who knows when they are in other peoples care who I am not paying!

I personally wouldn't sign up for care where my kids diet restrictions couldn't be accommodated but I also know they have those restrictions. This mom might have simply thought that her kid would be fine...until he started having issues. In my opinion going from dairy and gluten free to suddenly having lots of dairy and gluten is a recipe for disaster so this mom is 100% an idiot. Is she being malicious though? Maybe. Considering all of the other issues at play it sounds like she is.

[trix23]

They avoid dairy and gluten for health reasons. The mom doesn't eat this stuff too.
And no, not the same parent, unfortunately..

[nannyde]

They avoid dairy and gluten for heakth reasons. The mom doesn't eat this stuff too.
And no, not the same parent, unfortunately..

This is the part I don't get. They already eat this way at home. Why can't she just feed him breakfast and bring an easy to heat and serve or cold lunch to him and two snacks every day. Just make more for dinner and slop some into a container with whatever she gives him for snacks?

It's SO SO SO SO SO easy to solve. No more discussions EVER about food.

This deal that he wakes up so late is silly. Just put him to bed a half hour earlier and get him up a half earlier. Sit down and have breakfast WITH him every morning.

She could completely solve this with very little effort on her part.

[trix23]

I used to wake up at 6:30am to make my son a lunch for daycare, get him ready, myself ready, pack my own lunch then spend 45 minutes driving to drop him off and then head back home to go to work (When I did housecleaning). I would love to wake up at 8am!!!

[trix23]

This family gave their 2 weeks notice today. Since I didn't bend to their will, they are finding care elsewhere. Lol.

[CityGarden]

This family gave their 2 weeks notice today. Since I didn't bend to their will, they are finding care elsewhere. Lol.

That is good - you will no longer have to deal with them and they can still respect their family wishes with regard to diet. I am glad they gave their proper 2 weeks notice!

Too bad for the child who will have to move programs and readjust - all of this could have been avoided if mom had been either honest with herself or honest with you from the start. I don't judge families for having different views on eating / nutrition but I have never asked anyone to provide meals for my child and I don't provide meals in my program. They say Los Angeles Has The Pickiest Eaters In America so I only offer snacks! I guess now mom knows this is a deal breaker for her so she will hopefully ask about that prior to enrollment.

[trix23]

Does your child have allergies/ sensitivities?

At least I won't have to deal with this high-needs mom. Oy. I really liked the dad. I felt that he had reasonable expectations.

[LysesKids]

At drop-off today I could tell DCM was fuming. She said that I really didn't give enough notice for the policy change for meals (told them yesterday afternoon) and that they feel I should've given more notice or mentioned it the first time. I told her that I wasn't sure how I felt about it because it's never happened before with a client and that I tried it out a 2-3 times for them then implemented the new policy. She seemed ok with that answer but still upset.

And the snack she packed for his afternoon snack is cucumbers and hummus -.- ol

What's wrong with Cukes & hummus? If they can't have Gluten, it's not like they would pack pita bread - wheat equals gluten, as well as some other flours like Barley & even oats. We eat cukes & hummus here all the time or I fry up corn tortillas (yes from scratch)

Gluten free pretty much limits what type of non wheat bread product of any kind can be used - as a Gluten intolerant person myself, I get it, but you might not. Gluten can be in Soy sauce, mixes of all types & even bottled gravy; unless my oatmeal is certified gluten free, it could be cross contaminated in the mill just by grinding. I have to read all labels just to make sure it's not in my toothpaste (there are different words for gluten, but it can be there too)

[CityGarden]

Does your child have allergies/ sensitivities?

At least I won't have to deal with this high-needs mom. Oy. I really liked the dad. I felt that he had reasonable expectations.

Yes my child has a peanut and dairy allergy (dairy being defined as a protein in cow products) we also do not eat red meat and are mostly vegetarian. We never had an issue with daycare / preschool - most schools here are either 100% nut free or at the least peanut free so that was a non-issue and nothing to discuss. I would bring up the dairy allergy and both schools made alternatives available - both schools also only offered snack and neither were home based.

Yes the upside is you will no longer need to deal with this mom who would have always pushed for more....

[trix23]

Nothing wrong with it. Just that she didn't pack nearly enough. Her kid eats 2nds and 3rd helpings here.

[trix23]

Nothing wrong with cues and hummus. Just the fact that her kid eats a lot and that wouldn't be nearly enough food for him as a snack. He usually eats seconds and thirds.

[trix23]

Nothing wrong with cukes and hummus. Just that her child eats a lot

[LysesKids]

Nothing wrong with cukes and hummus. Just that her child eats a lot

The point though is it's a SNACK; you don't want to serve 2nd & 3rds if a meal will be fed in a few hrs. If they have a drink it should suffice. The point is to be hungry @ meal time.

I never feed as much snack as you do (I saw the menu), maybe that's why, but in order to keep food costs down I limit what kids get. I mean if you offer a PB & honey sandwich add milk & let it be done, they don't need a HB egg also - just my opinion.

I did greek yogurt with ice cold fresh fruit & WATER today - Food program acceptable & keeps my budget happy (and no I'm not on the program but I follow the guidelines with the exception of the non dairy milks/yogurt due to Soy Allergies)

[trix23]

I serve breakfast at 9am lunch at 12 and snack at 4. They are hungry at these times!