DCP Who Is 4 Weeks In Now Says That Her 2yo Seems Sensitive To Gluten And Dairy

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  • Ariana
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 8969

    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    She wants me to do gluten free and dairy free for her child and was demanding it. Then she said she wants to substitute based on my menu.

    After touring she asked how old my couch and rug were in the playroom. And enrolled a month or so after touring after she told me she wanted to start right away. Tons of red flags but I was new and naive.
    Those are two seperate issues though and I do understand more fully the frustration with her. If she is continually trying to change you and how you do things then definitely get rid of her. I was basing all of my answers on the original question and problem.

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    • hwichlaz
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2013
      • 2064

      #47
      Only replacing certain things on certain days leaves too much room to forget as well....leaving you to either figure out what to do for that meal, or being the heavy and sending her back home for food.

      It's easiest on every one if she just provides the food and doesn't bother trying to make it the same or similar.

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      • nannyde
        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
        • Mar 2010
        • 7320

        #48
        Originally posted by trix23
        Diaper dermatitis:
        Keep diaper area dry, clean, and aerated. Frequent diaper changes are essential; every 1-2 hours is recommended, less during the night is acceptable. Cleanse the area well with water at every diaper change and use mild soap, rinsing well following a stool. Annoys vigorous cleansing as this can worsen matters.
        Use a greasy lubricant if skin is dry.
        Use a protective barrier ointment cream such as Desitin, cod liver oil with zinc oxide, A&D ointment, aquaphor, petroleum, or zinc oxide
        Leave diaper off for limited time to encourage air flow and lessen heat/moisturecto area
        Increase fluids to dilute urine

        Diet: increase fluids and decrease acidity level. No dairy, no gluten, decrease sugar content.I

        So does he still have a diaper rash? If the rash is gone then he should go back to regular diet.

        If the doctor wants a standing order for a diet he needs to have testing to back it up. Otherwise it is just situational dependent.

        I would ask for a release of information so that you can speak to the dr.

        If a kid has diarrhea then we put them on the BRAT diet. Once the diarrhea subsides we put them on a regular diet.

        What gives you the idea that this is meant to be a diet for anything but the diaper rash time?
        http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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        • hwichlaz
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2013
          • 2064

          #49
          Originally posted by nannyde
          So does he still have a diaper rash? If the rash is gone then he should go back to regular diet.

          If the doctor wants a standing order for a diet he needs to have testing to back it up. Otherwise it is just situational dependent.

          I would ask for a release of information so that you can speak to the dr.

          If a kid has diarrhea then we put them on the BRAT diet. Once the diarrhea subsides we put them on a regular diet.

          What gives you the idea that this is meant to be a diet for anything but the diaper rash time?
          Allergy testing innaccurate in young children. My own son had allergies, the doctor did a blood test because RAST testing is cruel to do to a toddler, and innacurrate in the very young. The blood tests are also not that accurate and tend to pop false positives, but gave us a place to start with an elimination diet.

          The child has been dairy and gluten free at home...it's very likely he's become sensitive because of this...and starting daycare where he was given these things caused the rash. Mom probably doesn't want to slowly desensitize him because she wants him to remain dairy and gluten free.

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          • trix23
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 525

            #50
            My point with the "notifying at tour" thing was that if she had told me that he was not to have dairy or gluten, I would've told her that he will either need special food daily or that they cannot enroll.

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            • trix23
              New Daycare.com Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 525

              #51
              And I know that parents are busy to be providing food 5 days a week. But I disclose all polices beforehand and if there's a known food sensitivity or allergy, I address it. From there, they decide if they want to enroll or not. I'm not forcing them to sign on with me!

              They make an informed decision. Don't be mad when I enforce my policies!

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              • hwichlaz
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2013
                • 2064

                #52
                Originally posted by trix23
                And I know that parents are busy to be providing food 5 days a week. But I disclose all polices beforehand and if there's a known food sensitivity or allergy, I address it. From there, they decide if they want to enroll or not. I'm not forcing them to sign on with me!

                They make an informed decision. Don't be mad when I enforce my policies!
                She's going to have to do it when he starts school anyway. May as well get used to it now.

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                • nannyde
                  All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 7320

                  #53
                  Originally posted by hwichlaz
                  Allergy testing innaccurate in young children. My own son had allergies, the doctor did a blood test because RAST testing is cruel to do to a toddler, and innacurrate in the very young. The blood tests are also not that accurate and tend to pop false positives, but gave us a place to start with an elimination diet.

                  The child has been dairy and gluten free at home...it's very likely he's become sensitive because of this...and starting daycare where he was given these things caused the rash. Mom probably doesn't want to slowly desensitize him because she wants him to remain dairy and gluten free.
                  I haven't heard of allergy testing being categorically inaccurate. Do you have any current research you have read to state this?

                  If he was on a special diet before entering daycare the provider should have been told before interviewing... on first phone call.
                  http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                  • hwichlaz
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 2064

                    #54
                    Originally posted by nannyde
                    I haven't heard of allergy testing being categorically inaccurate. Do you have any current research you have read to state this?

                    If he was on a special diet before entering daycare the provider should have been told before interviewing... on first phone call.
                    She was told that he was dairy and gluten free at home. But if he'd never had those things, how would they know he was sensitive to them? Makes total sense.

                    No I didn't research it, I trusted our pediatric pulmonologist's word. It's been 15 years, but that was what the experts were saying back then. A quick google search just now is confirming that false positives are an issue though.

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                    • CityGarden
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 1667

                      #55
                      Originally posted by trix23
                      And I know that parents are busy to be providing food 5 days a week. But I disclose all polices beforehand and if there's a known food sensitivity or allergy, I address it. From there, they decide if they want to enroll or not. I'm not forcing them to sign on with me!

                      They make an informed decision. Don't be mad when I enforce my policies!
                      Originally posted by hwichlaz
                      She's going to have to do it when he starts school anyway. May as well get used to it now.
                      Again I repeat if the child truly has an intolerance or allergy that justify the child having a special diet the parent will make time. I do not know a single allergy parent that wouldn't.

                      All my clients pack a lunch for their children each day..... 1/2 of them work full time.

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                      • nannyde
                        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 7320

                        #56
                        Originally posted by hwichlaz
                        She was told that he was dairy and gluten free at home. But if he'd never had those things, how would they know he was sensitive to them? Makes total sense.

                        No I didn't research it, I trusted our pediatric pulmonologist's word. It's been 15 years, but that was what the experts were saying back then. A quick google search just now is confirming that false positives are an issue though.
                        Where did the op say that the mom said he was gluten free and dairy free before enrollment? I can't find that.
                        http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                        • Unregistered

                          #57
                          Originally posted by CityGarden
                          Again I repeat if the child truly has an intolerance or allergy that justify the child having a special diet the parent will make time. I do not know a single allergy parent that wouldn't.
                          And that too. If a parent makes an allergy/sensitivity demand and is ok with some of it but not all, that's odd to me.

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                          • hwichlaz
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 2064

                            #58
                            Originally posted by nannyde
                            Where did the op say that the mom said he was gluten free and dairy free before enrollment? I can't find that.
                            In one of her posts she states that the mom mentioned that they were gluten and dairy free themselves. It's not in the first post. But then the OP explained that her daycare was not gluten or dairy free and the mom seemed okay with that.

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                            • hwichlaz
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 2064

                              #59
                              Originally posted by trix23
                              Yeah, and I was forward with them at the interview/tour about me serving gluten and dairy but in moderation (she mentioned that they avoid these things at home)
                              here it is

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                              • childcaremom
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 2955

                                #60
                                I get where you are coming from, Trix. If it had been brought up during the tour, you could have told her right then and there that she would have needed to send foods. She didn't. Now it's coming up and you are dealing with it.

                                Dcm, it is my policy that if there are allergies or food sensitivities that parents must provide ALL snacks and food. No exceptions.

                                If she pushes: Dcm, that is my policy. I understand if that does not work for you and you need to find other care. Please remember I need 2 weeks notice.

                                If she continues to push...

                                After careful review, I no longer feel that my program is able to meet your needs. The last day I am able to provide care is.....

                                (and this is why I don't accept families who have used nannies) ::::

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