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    #46
    Originally posted by Denali
    I am fully prepared to deny care Thursday morning is she doesn't provide proof of fraud on her account or pay the full amount owed including fees. 2 days vs a month of providing care for free is a big difference. I do also still have the check as she said I could keep if for the 23rd payment.

    It will cover some of what she owes if I cash it Thursday night to cover the fees. If she doesn't pay me at all ever than it wouldn't cover all of it, but it will be something. Alaska pfd's come out in October. So unless The account is closed ( which no one closes their counts during PFD time unless the bank closes it on you). As sleazy as that might make me feel, she would owe me the money that the check is written for and I have the right to collect it if I have the means to do so. If I have to do this than care will be terminated.

    I am serious about 'slapping' her in the face with the rule book and taking her to court if I must. They are not PCS'ing until April. I have confirmed this.

    If she pays me then that will buy me time to find a family to replace her and not put me in any real financial hardship. I would like to avoid that if at all possible. But I'm not going to work for free passed the two days that I've given her. If she actually had fraud on her account then by Thursday not only would she have her husband's paycheck but the bank should have credited her the money that was stolen. Do not pay me Thursday all that is owed would simply mean that she lied about the fraud and care would terminated. I would either cash the check to get what I'm owed or proceed to small claims court.

    Though that is a question I should ask you guys. If I don't get paid Thursday would you take the check I have and cash it to get the money owed or file a small claims straight off the bat?
    Honestly, the first time I cashed the check and it bounced, I would have taken her to small claims with this history. You keep drawing lines and she keeps crossing them. This about can you follow your own rules?

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    • sharlan
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 6067

      #47
      I bet she puts a stop payment on the check.

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      • Meeko
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 4351

        #48
        OK..so this is a military family?

        I started daycare while my husband served in the USAF. I only tended USAF children.

        It was 30 years ago and back then, it was the norm for parents to pay AFTER care had been provided.

        But it was NEVER a problem. Why? Because every airman knew that all I had to do was pick up the phone and make a call to their squadron commander to let them know if I wasn't paid. Bad debt is VERY SERIOUSLY frowned upon by the military. A guy in my husband's squadron was let go with a dishonorable discharge for bad debt.

        I made sure clients knew I wasn't scared to call their commander if I didn't get paid. Could you do the same?

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        • Denali
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2015
          • 174

          #49
          Originally posted by Meeko
          OK..so this is a military family?

          I started daycare while my husband served in the USAF. I only tended USAF children.

          It was 30 years ago and back then, it was the norm for parents to pay AFTER care had been provided.

          But it was NEVER a problem. Why? Because every airman knew that all I had to do was pick up the phone and make a call to their squadron commander to let them know if I wasn't paid. Bad debt is VERY SERIOUSLY frowned upon by the military. A guy in my husband's squadron was let go with a dishonorable discharge for bad debt.

          I made sure clients knew I wasn't scared to call their commander if I didn't get paid. Could you do the same?
          I should be able to yes. I've seen it done before and have been told I should if I'm not paid Thursday.

          I should having 2 new DCG's starting soon. 1 Thursday and another Monday (different families). But we'll see. I also have an interview this afternoon for a family with 2 children. If any of them work out than this family with be gone.

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          • Denali
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2015
            • 174

            #50
            Originally posted by Denali
            I should be able to yes. I've seen it done before and have been told I should if I'm not paid Thursday.

            I should having 2 new DCG's starting soon. 1 Thursday and another Monday (different families). But we'll see. I also have an interview this afternoon for a family with 2 children. If any of them work out than this family with be gone.
            Meant that to say:
            If any of them work out than this family with be gone Even if they pay me this Thursday.

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            • Unregistered

              #51
              It's Thursday any update?? Did they bring what they owed??

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              • LostMyMarbles
                LostMyMarbles
                • Jul 2016
                • 395

                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered
                It's Thursday any update?? Did they bring what they owed??

                Oh yea...we need our fix

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                • Pestle
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2016
                  • 1729

                  #53
                  I really really really want the update to end with "so I repossessed her puppy."

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                  • LostMyMarbles
                    LostMyMarbles
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 395

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Pestle
                    I really really really want the update to end with "so I repossessed her puppy."

                    Lmao.....this is the funniest thing I have read on this forum....

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                    • Controlled Chaos
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2108

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Pestle
                      I really really really want the update to end with "so I repossessed her puppy."
                      ::::::

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                      • Denali
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 174

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Pestle
                        I really really really want the update to end with "so I repossessed her puppy."
                        That, would be awesome. I would totally do that.

                        It's been a busy day, 2 new kids started, and supposedly I have a third coming to drop off paperwork tomorrow that wants to start Monday. One kid will most likely not work out as DCM has already tried to short me money. This is the one that told me "I'm not sure if DCD will be ok with the enrollment fee..." so yea, tried to hand me a check without it, told her the check was short and she responded with "oh I was sure that was the right amount..." than asked if she could pay me it next payday. I smiled and told her " no problem! We can just start care than if I still have the space!"

                        Funny how fast she whipped out the check book to write me another check. But yeah, not impressed with her right now. Funny how I seem to have backbone is all sorts of ways with these new families, but not really with the old ones

                        The family starting Monday wanted to pay on the 29th, but start yesterday, I was firm when I said nope. I get paid before I provide care. For her interview she took one step into my home and said she wanted to start, didn't even need to look around or look at my policies. Wanted to start as soon as she could...

                        Not holding my breath in her working out either. I'll be meeting the kid tomorrow afternoon.

                        So anyway, update:

                        Mom dropped off this morning and paid $120.00. So she is paid up until the 23rd. She is on her last straw and she knows it. Also Reminded her to make sure to bring the proof of fraud so I can wave all her late payment fees and her return check fee that she owes me, she gave me a "what? You were serious??" Look.

                        We'll see.

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                        • Pestle
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 1729

                          #57
                          "Here; raise my offspring. Wait, you think I'll pay you for this?! Hahahahaha! No. Well, take good care of them!"

                          What kind of care do these people end up with, anyway? I had an experience with a scatterbrained part-time dad who used the scatterbrainedness as an excuse to avoid paying . . . one day I got up in his face and told him he couldn't leave his son without paying, and he pulled $3 out of his pocket. I said, "You still owe me $37," and he added five bucks and ran out the door. This was drop off. He dropped his kid and bolted. That was the last day he came . . . I shudder to think about the kind of care his son must be getting now.

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                          • Mike
                            starting daycare someday
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 2507

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Pestle
                            "Here; raise my offspring. Wait, you think I'll pay you for this?! Hahahahaha! No. Well, take good care of them!"

                            What kind of care do these people end up with, anyway? I had an experience with a scatterbrained part-time dad who used the scatterbrainedness as an excuse to avoid paying . . . one day I got up in his face and told him he couldn't leave his son without paying, and he pulled $3 out of his pocket. I said, "You still owe me $37," and he added five bucks and ran out the door. This was drop off. He dropped his kid and bolted. That was the last day he came . . . I shudder to think about the kind of care his son must be getting now.
                            I worry about that too, people who will drop their kid off with anyone who will watch them for next to nothing.
                            Children are little angels, even when they are little devils.
                            They are also our future.

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                            • DaveA
                              Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 4245

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Mike
                              I worry about that too, people who will drop their kid off with anyone who will watch them for next to nothing.
                              I have to distance myself from it, or it drives me nuts. I just focus on how I do my stuff. There's a center in the area that is everything I don't like about childcare. They do just enough to stay out of trouble/ not get shut down. I (kind of) joke with DW about staging a coup and take it over. I can't spend time worrying about it or I'd be out front picketing.

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                              • daycarediva
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 11698

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Pestle
                                I really really really want the update to end with "so I repossessed her puppy."

                                HAHAHA!!!!!!!! ::

                                Can you imagine, holding the puppy as collateral? LOL!!!

                                I say replace, regardless.

                                Also, it's easier with new families because you are starting fresh. They know no other 'you'. I find the first few weeks to be the defining of the relationship period and pretty much sets the tone for the rest of the time they are enrolled.

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