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  • KristinsHomeCC
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2015
    • 139

    #16
    Originally posted by mommyneedsadayoff
    Parents always request what will make their kid more comfortable...some things we can do, some we cannot. All of us run a program that is QUALITY versus quantity and we do so in a way that follows licensing standards. We have had numerous threads, but BC just mentioned it recently, "Parents cannot give permission to do the wrong thing". You may think that is a quality, but in reality, the minute you compromise on safety to appease a parent, you are offering less that quality service. Please do not think I ma trying to be hard on your or be mean...I am sincerely trying to let you know that you must think of yourself and your family first. Don't let parent problems be your problem.:hug:
    Crap! I'm so bad with internet stuff -- I meant the comfort thing to go along with moving PNP around to fit the DCB's needs! I just need to shut up and eat some chocolate ::::::

    OAN: Do I really need to rethink the camera thing if I get rid of the bad apples, who think it's their job to monitor me? I've had nothing but good experience with it..and I was *JUST* telling my husband this morning about how no one has ever tried to bring anything like this up!!

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    • Thriftylady
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 5884

      #17
      Originally posted by KristinsHomeCC
      Crap! I'm so bad with internet stuff -- I meant the comfort thing to go along with moving PNP around to fit the DCB's needs! I just need to shut up and eat some chocolate ::::::

      OAN: Do I really need to rethink the camera thing if I get rid of the bad apples, who think it's their job to monitor me? I've had nothing but good experience with it..and I was *JUST* telling my husband this morning about how no one has ever tried to bring anything like this up!!
      I would not have cameras that parents can access. Period, end of story. It is a lawsuit looking for a place to happen. They can think they saw you do something wrong, and it not be what they thought. You may not be found guilty, but in the long drawn out court battle, your name will be drug through the mud, and you will spend a fortune defending yourself over something that never happened.

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      • Thriftylady
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 5884

        #18
        Oh, and dad does not get to say where you put the pack and play. I will tell you what I think plain and simple. This family needs a nanny, they want nanny care but to pay for group care. I termed one of those last summer. Best thing I have done in quite some time!

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        • laundrymom
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 4177

          #19
          Originally posted by Cat Herder
          A crying baby is an alive baby.

          Don't make me tell my son's story again. I am having a good day.
          This. This right here. Thank you for saying no more car seat OP.
          Now, stay tough. It's rough. Either he will get over it and sleep or you will decide to term. Make sure parents know that is the two options. He will break or you will term. And he will break easier if they dont put him at risk of SIDS at home.
          Make sure they know
          "I can't increase his sids risk at daycare. If you choose to at home that is your conscious. I won't do it here "

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #20
            Originally posted by Thriftylady
            Oh, and dad does not get to say where you put the pack and play. I will tell you what I think plain and simple. This family needs a nanny, they want nanny care but to pay for group care. I termed one of those last summer. Best thing I have done in quite some time!
            But this is the type of request she CAN accommodate.

            It falls under her niche services.

            It does not go against safe sleep/licensing regulations and does not compromise anyone's life or livelihood.

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            • Play Care
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 6642

              #21
              My regulations are fairly strict as to where baby can be and what they can be in. I nap babies in my dining room because if they wake crying, I can get to them before they wake everyone else up. This is non-negotiable. The only way I'd consider them sleeping in the main play room is if they were great sleepers.

              I know some will disagree but when I have a challenging infant, I get everyone else down and will feed then rock baby putting them down very drowsy (practically asleep...) as time goes on I find I rock less and the child is able to go down like everyone else.

              If, despite my best effort, baby was crying/not sleeping then I'd have no choice but to term.

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              • Thriftylady
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 5884

                #22
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                But this is the type of request she CAN accommodate.

                It falls under her niche services.

                It does not go against safe sleep/licensing regulations and does not compromise anyone's life or livelihood.
                She CAN accommodate it, but once she does what do they ask for next? In my experience, once you accommodate special, they will ask for more and more special. And this family is already doing that now. I am just saying I personally wouldn't accommodate it, because it seems like it will just be the first in a long line of accommodations this family wants. If she chooses to, then that is fine, but I wouldn't.

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                • KristinsHomeCC
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 139

                  #23
                  Thanks guys! So I ended up emailing DCM last night and said we will start sleep training in PnP today. I also said it will be *in the nap room* and he will just have to adjust. I'm really not meshing with the DCB or family anyways so I'm terminating Friday at the end of our trial period. If they are already getting me this ruffled up on the 6th day, it's not a good sign to me at all.

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                  • Thriftylady
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 5884

                    #24
                    Originally posted by KristinsHomeCC
                    Thanks guys! So I ended up emailing DCM last night and said we will start sleep training in PnP today. I also said it will be *in the nap room* and he will just have to adjust. I'm really not meshing with the DCB or family anyways so I'm terminating Friday at the end of our trial period. If they are already getting me this ruffled up on the 6th day, it's not a good sign to me at all.
                    Wow that new and all of this? I agree I would have to term also. Not worth the stress. Just an FYI, I have a place on my contract to sign about how children will sleep and it is in my handbook. Perhaps add it so parents will no longer expect you to vary from it? Parents here have to initial it on the contract, that infants will sleep in a PNP and no other place. That way when they ask, I can say "you signed off on this policy".

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Thriftylady
                      She CAN accommodate it, but once she does what do they ask for next? In my experience, once you accommodate special, they will ask for more and more special. And this family is already doing that now. I am just saying I personally wouldn't accommodate it, because it seems like it will just be the first in a long line of accommodations this family wants. If she chooses to, then that is fine, but I wouldn't.
                      You missed the point.

                      This provider DOES offer "special" services and DOES take requests from parents.

                      I know you personally wouldn't but she isn't asking what any of us would do, she asking about HER situation and she has already stated that she runs a smaller program on purpose so she CAN honor special requests and abide by parental choices.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #26
                        Originally posted by KristinsHomeCC
                        Thanks guys! So I ended up emailing DCM last night and said we will start sleep training in PnP today. I also said it will be *in the nap room* and he will just have to adjust. I'm really not meshing with the DCB or family anyways so I'm terminating Friday at the end of our trial period. If they are already getting me this ruffled up on the 6th day, it's not a good sign to me at all.
                        If you are terminating care after such short notice, why bother sleep training? That's awfully unfair to the DCB...

                        HOW and WHERE has he been sleeping over the last 5 days?

                        I guess I think it would be really unfair to attempt to alter this child's sleep routine for only 4 days if you haven't already done it from day one.

                        Honestly, I don't feel this is term worthy as you've already said the mom agreed to begin sleep training via e-mail last night so why not continue to try if mom/dad are now aware of the situation and are willing to move forward in a manner in which you ARE able to accommodate?

                        But like I said above, your program..your choice.

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                        • Rockgirl
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 2204

                          #27
                          To me, it sounds like the parents haven't been trained in safe sleep practices. I'm also thinking I wouldn't term over this, but I would give them info, and make it clear that safe sleep practices would be followed at daycare.

                          I really don't think dcd was being unreasonable by asking the question. It sounds like he was just wondering. Of course I wasn't there and don't know what his tone was.

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                          • Thriftylady
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 5884

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Rockgirl
                            To me, it sounds like the parents haven't been trained in safe sleep practices. I'm also thinking I wouldn't term over this, but I would give them info, and make it clear that safe sleep practices would be followed at daycare.

                            I really don't think dcd was being unreasonable by asking the question. It sounds like he was just wondering. Of course I wasn't there and don't know what his tone was.
                            I somewhat agree with this, but the OP's last post seems like she is really stressed over the situation. I have gotten to the point where if parents are stressing me out, I will term. Of course you can try to talk to them about it and try to work it out.

                            OP are you planning on terming just because your trial period is coming to an end? Would you stick it out otherwise? If that is the only reason, maybe you could extend the trial period? That would give you a chance to see how things go. It just depends on if you want to work with the parents more or not.

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                            • KristinsHomeCC
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2015
                              • 139

                              #29
                              I guess you cant really fit a whole weeks story into a single post, haha!

                              DCB sleeps in crib at home in parents room. Just fine, they say. Here he does not want to be in the pack N play, I am guessing because his last provider had him since 10 weeks and always used his car seat or swing, so thats what parents said to do here. So, I guess it really isnt sleep training him if thats how he sleeps at home..its just sleep training him for my house, if that makes sense.

                              As far as terming..I am not bonding w this baby at all. My other 9m old I was in love with since day 1. I also don't feel like the parents and I really mesh (besides DCDs comment). It just doesn't feel right. I dont fill myself to the max with kids but I do have a waiting list for my 4th spot (new DCBs spot) so I feel if it doesnt feel like a good fit, why not term when I have the chance to end it without hard feelings?

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                              • Thriftylady
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 5884

                                #30
                                Originally posted by KristinsHomeCC
                                I guess you cant really fit a whole weeks story into a single post, haha!

                                DCB sleeps in crib at home in parents room. Just fine, they say. Here he does not want to be in the pack N play, I am guessing because his last provider had him since 10 weeks and always used his car seat or swing, so thats what parents said to do here. So, I guess it really isnt sleep training him if thats how he sleeps at home..its just sleep training him for my house, if that makes sense.

                                As far as terming..I am not bonding w this baby at all. My other 9m old I was in love with since day 1. I also don't feel like the parents and I really mesh (besides DCDs comment). It just doesn't feel right. I dont fill myself to the max with kids but I do have a waiting list for my 4th spot (new DCBs spot) so I feel if it doesnt feel like a good fit, why not term when I have the chance to end it without hard feelings?
                                If you feel term is what is needed, do it. We don't know everything, you can't really have a full discussion on the boards. At the end of the day it is your decision. I mean if it was one thing, maybe you could extend your trial. But if it is more than that, then you can do what you see as best!

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