Illegal Daycare Operating as Legal

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Alwaysgreener
    Home Child Care Provider
    • Oct 2013
    • 2520

    #31
    Originally posted by momofsix
    Unless things have changed with LARA taking over, I was told that after orientation I could take kids. Also, I got my paper license long before they actually came and inspected.
    The six child ratio DOES include your own/related children though
    I opened over a year ago, I am not sure when LARA took over (I think it has been in the past year because I had to rebookmark the technical). I had to make sure every thing was up to code and send a paper saying that I was in agreement to the rules and was up to code (I could of signed at orientation, but there was some things that I misunderstood and had to correct). Then that took 2-3 weeks and I got a call from my licenser telling me I was approved and could start caring for LO. Week later the actual license came in the mail. However, I received my License number at orientation. I started getting the food program and other mailings after orientation.
    My inspection was to be done in my first 90 after approved, She came like 89 days later.

    Comment

    • Carrieh
      Daycare.com Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 8

      #32
      The original poster was a daycare provider!!!

      Originally posted by Blackcat31
      Boy, its too bad the unregistered poster who reported the provider (in the original post) was as willing to help in assisting her in interpreting the regulations/rules like so many here are doing.

      Perhaps she may have benefitted from the assistance.

      Carrieh- if you are the provider that was reported, I hope you are able to learn from the information shared here and are able to become fully licensed and open as a legally licensed provider.

      I found out who she was, & she is a provider in my town. She won, unfortunately. I gave up on the whole process. The state did admit they gave me misleading information, but I have two young kids of my own and can't be so stressed out as this entire process has become. All the poster had to do was email or message me with concerns. Instead, she decided to defame me and my character. The state did tell me a non-spring trampoline was okay; especially since it was something requested by a doctors note. My son is autistic.

      Comment

      • Carrieh
        Daycare.com Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 8

        #33
        The person, by the way, who posted this concern...

        Is a daycare provider. I put together information & found out who she was. Her daycare has had claims of her daughter biting other kids...which is currently being reported. I, however, gave up on the licensing process. I have 2 young kids of my own. I never had kids I was watching just had a list of people who had signed up. It was NEVER about the money for me. It was about the kids. My son is autistic, and the trampoline was approved for him with a doctors note. I wanted to help other kids have an enjoyable and safe environment, especially ones with challenges like my son. All this person had to do was express her concerns with me directly. If she felt like I was doing something wrong and illegal, I could confirm and stop or get confirmation to her. The state did admit they miscommunicated to me, and lead me to believe I was allowed to watch kids. Regardless, this persons post, without even trying to first communicating with me directly with concerns, was inconsiderate, rude, inappropriate, unprofessional and extremely DEFAMING!!!!

        I've worked in the legal field for over 10 years & do know the definition of defaming! Regardless...I've given up. I mean hey...it's not about the well-being of the kids, right? If it was...anyone would see my home was not only safe and a great place for kids, but also my intentions, curriculum and time I place with my own kids shows my love and concern for them...only them. If that wasn't the case I wouldn't have paid our local theater to do a sensory movie screening for kids with sensitivities and/or first time movie goers of The Good Dinosaur. Yes...that came out of my own pocket and I had several parents thank me for doing that.

        --Thanks for the great Christmas present, reporter. You really bring the meaning of Christmas...that being giving and kindness...to others! I hope your childcare is fully successful...you may; however, want to get your daughter to stop biting other kids though!...just saying...--

        Comment

        • Unregistered

          #34
          Hmphh

          Wow Carrieh, YOU broke the law and you're blaming someone else because you got caught?!!

          Also, you are flat out LYING.
          1.When I sent in my paperwork, I had a licensing number within 24 hours of the time the state receiveved it. My licensor called me and said, "here's your number. I'll mail out your license today. And l will come do an inspection sometime in the next 90 days"
          2.They NEVER hold your number until inspection. NEVER for a family childcare. If you're a group home it's different but you've indicated you're family.
          3. If you had attended ANY kind of state mandated orientation you would know without a fraction of a doubt that trampolines are NEVER allowed for daycare kids. You may have one on the property for your kids but it is strictly forbidden for daycare kids.
          4. If you attended an orientation you would know that your kids count until they are seven! They go over ratio/capacity for OVER AN HOUR at the orientation drilling it into your head over and over and over.


          5. Every single person in MI is reading your posts saying "WOW this lady know NOTHING about the licensing process and has very obviously NEVER made an attempt to get licensed." You dug yourself into a huge hole when you started talking because you sound like a toddler trying to explain physics. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

          So the cats outta the bag. You are a fraud who is trying to convince all these well-meaning people that you didn't do anything wrong when you intentionally and repeatedly broke the law.

          It is ILLEGAL in Michigan to operate unlicensed. The OP did nothing wrong by reporting you. Not only were you operating illegally but you were also breaking a bunch of safety rules that you would have KNOWN were risky if you'd ever made an attempt to get licensed.
          THIS IS WHY LICENSING IS MANDATORY. Because people like you don't know what is safe/unsafe for children.

          Comment

          • Thriftylady
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 5884

            #35
            Originally posted by Carrieh
            Is a daycare provider. I put together information & found out who she was. Her daycare has had claims of her daughter biting other kids...which is currently being reported. I, however, gave up on the licensing process. I have 2 young kids of my own. I never had kids I was watching just had a list of people who had signed up. It was NEVER about the money for me. It was about the kids. My son is autistic, and the trampoline was approved for him with a doctors note. I wanted to help other kids have an enjoyable and safe environment, especially ones with challenges like my son. All this person had to do was express her concerns with me directly. If she felt like I was doing something wrong and illegal, I could confirm and stop or get confirmation to her. The state did admit they miscommunicated to me, and lead me to believe I was allowed to watch kids. Regardless, this persons post, without even trying to first communicating with me directly with concerns, was inconsiderate, rude, inappropriate, unprofessional and extremely DEFAMING!!!!

            I've worked in the legal field for over 10 years & do know the definition of defaming! Regardless...I've given up. I mean hey...it's not about the well-being of the kids, right? If it was...anyone would see my home was not only safe and a great place for kids, but also my intentions, curriculum and time I place with my own kids shows my love and concern for them...only them. If that wasn't the case I wouldn't have paid our local theater to do a sensory movie screening for kids with sensitivities and/or first time movie goers of The Good Dinosaur. Yes...that came out of my own pocket and I had several parents thank me for doing that.

            --Thanks for the great Christmas present, reporter. You really bring the meaning of Christmas...that being giving and kindness...to others! I hope your childcare is fully successful...you may; however, want to get your daughter to stop biting other kids though!...just saying...--
            I am not so sure I would be so quick to give up. I think you should finish the process! Don't let one person ruin your dreams.

            Comment

            • Rockgirl
              Daycare.com Member
              • May 2013
              • 2204

              #36
              Originally posted by Carrieh
              Is a daycare provider. I put together information & found out who she was. Her daycare has had claims of her daughter biting other kids...which is currently being reported. I, however, gave up on the licensing process. I have 2 young kids of my own. I never had kids I was watching just had a list of people who had signed up. It was NEVER about the money for me. It was about the kids. My son is autistic, and the trampoline was approved for him with a doctors note. I wanted to help other kids have an enjoyable and safe environment, especially ones with challenges like my son. All this person had to do was express her concerns with me directly. If she felt like I was doing something wrong and illegal, I could confirm and stop or get confirmation to her. The state did admit they miscommunicated to me, and lead me to believe I was allowed to watch kids. Regardless, this persons post, without even trying to first communicating with me directly with concerns, was inconsiderate, rude, inappropriate, unprofessional and extremely DEFAMING!!!!

              I've worked in the legal field for over 10 years & do know the definition of defaming! Regardless...I've given up. I mean hey...it's not about the well-being of the kids, right? If it was...anyone would see my home was not only safe and a great place for kids, but also my intentions, curriculum and time I place with my own kids shows my love and concern for them...only them. If that wasn't the case I wouldn't have paid our local theater to do a sensory movie screening for kids with sensitivities and/or first time movie goers of The Good Dinosaur. Yes...that came out of my own pocket and I had several parents thank me for doing that.

              --Thanks for the great Christmas present, reporter. You really bring the meaning of Christmas...that being giving and kindness...to others! I hope your childcare is fully successful...you may; however, want to get your daughter to stop biting other kids though!...just saying...--

              Here you are stating that you never had kids in your care--just a list of kids who would attend when you became licensed. Yet the OP said she emailed you (it sounds like you have determined this post is about you) asking how many kids you had in care, and you responded with the list of children and ages.

              Comment

              • Thriftylady
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 5884

                #37
                Originally posted by Rockgirl
                Here you are stating that you never had kids in your care--just a list of kids who would attend when you became licensed. Yet the OP said she emailed you (it sounds like you have determined this post is about you) asking how many kids you had in care, and you responded with the list of children and ages.
                In one post, she states that she had kids but when she found out she shouldn't she sent them to another provider until she can take them back.

                Comment

                • Rockgirl
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 2204

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Thriftylady
                  In one post, she states that she had kids but when she found out she shouldn't she sent them to another provider until she can take them back.
                  Yes, then this: "I never had kids I was watching just had a list of people who had signed up."

                  Comment

                  • Unregistered

                    #39
                    Hmphh

                    Originally posted by Rockgirl
                    Yes, then this: "I never had kids I was watching just had a list of people who had signed up."
                    yep she said this on post 15

                    "So, I stopped taking kids and the kids I did have are temporarily at either another person's home, or I gave them the name of an individual who is not licensed and running a childcare out of her home with quite a bit more kids."

                    But then in post 33 she says

                    "I never had kids I was watching just had a list of people who had signed up. It was NEVER about the money for me. It was about the kids."

                    She also changed her story on her kids counting in her number.

                    On this thread she says in post 24

                    'Your kids does not count as kids in your daycare."

                    But on this thread she says

                    "Here's the kicker...family home daycare only allows for up to 6 kids...your own included in that count."

                    Daycare Center and Family Home owners, Directors, Operators and Assistants should post and ask questions here.



                    So what is the truth?

                    Comment

                    • Carrieh
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 8

                      #40
                      ...

                      I didn't have kids. I had a list of kids who were going start...soon! I was also told by an individual in the licensing department that I "had the green light." I assumed that meant I was legal to watch kids. This whole legal thing is rather ridiculous too. I've babysat many, many, many times. Make sure you report me for that too, K?!? I only had 2 kid under my care that were of my relation. The other people were on a list starting soon. They then had to send their kids to another person until this whole licensing thing was figured out. Whatever...not one of you have EVER met me. You have no clue who I am, what my home looks like and whether I am good with children, yet you are making me out to be this awful, awful person. The person who initially made this post was very, very defaming...and I know who they are. My past career has been in the legal field, and I have been advised from prior attorneys that I've worked for not only to bring a suit against the State for the miscommunication, but also and especially the person who made this post on a defamation level. If this person had valid proof that I was causing harm to other children and purposely doing illegal things...then yes, there should be serious consequences. I don't give a darn (to be nice) what everyone else went through to get their license or how they got it...I was told by the State licensing department that I had "THE GREEN LIGHT." The person who said that should NEVER have said that. They gave me the wrong impression and completely miscommunicated. In that regards, I do not feel I was doing anything wrong. Yup...I didn't have that "magic number," but I was told I was good to go. You can't just throw out there all false and horrible things about a person when you don't know them or ever met them. As for the kids I was told by the State that yes...I was allowed to have 6 kids aside from my own. If they told me wrong...yet again...well GO AFTER THEM!!! NOT ME!!! I don't feel I did nothing wrong according to what I was told. I don't have any children, aside from my own, that I am watching...but I'm so glad to hear that all of you are so concerned about a child's well-being! I'm going get in touch with the moderator of this site, because this continuing false allegations against me and defaming responses are beyond wrong. If a moderator sees this...please understand that my attorney will be sending a cease and desist correspondence along with getting in touch with you regarding this continuing post. As for the rest of you...this needs to stop. You don't know the story behind this. You don't know me. You don't know my childcare or home, and your accusations and actions against me as a person completely lacks moral. Just stop! I'm not getting my license, so go out there and attack another person! THANK YOU!

                      Comment

                      • Unregistered

                        #41
                        I'm not a member on here, but I've been following this thread. You seem to to have a hormone imbalance (pregnant maybe). There is no reason to get so upset or threaten to sue anyone. With the way you have blown this all out of proportion, there is no way you can handle working with people on a daily basis. Day care parents would send you through an emotional roller coaster on a weekly, if not daily, basis. The state did not shut you down. Go on about your business. Why do you care what others even think about you. Follow the state's rules and get on with your life.

                        Comment

                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #42
                          This has gotten a little out of hand and unnecessary.

                          Comment

                          Working...