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  • nothingwithoutjoy
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2012
    • 1042

    Precautions When Unvaccinated Child Is Enrolled

    Oh, boy, I know this is a heated one. And I know there are old posts (in fact, I think I started one a few years back), but I'm hoping for quick and specific. I've just enrolled a new child who starts Tuesday; got his paperwork today (more last-second than I usually do), and found out he's unvaccinated. I haven't had anyone unvaccinated before. I am wondering, for those who have enrolled unvaccinated children, do you have certain policies in place? My main concern is the littlest kids, who haven't completed their vaccinations yet, and the infants who may come to pick up big siblings. I wonder about their exposure to stuff they may not encounter otherwise. (Though of course who knows what they'll come across at the playground, etc....but here, I feel responsible.) I was trying to find suggestions online and saw something saying to exclude if there's an outbreak of something there's a vaccine for. Made me wonder how I'd even know, and how I could charge for something like that (i.e. dck not actually sick). Seems excessive, but as I said, I have no experience with this. Advice?
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    Ok I have two unvaccinated almost 1 1/2 and 3 1/2 one parent fully vaccinated other parent is not they are the type that do not believe in medicine an things like that.they believe in like all natural and organic an stuff.suprising they are never really sick they are fine and healthy.the only thing I nocticed is if the have a little cold like stuff nose or minor cough I noticed it takes a little longer to go away than a kid who would take medicine for couple days than its gone there's will last alittle longer.if the kid is barely sick u should be fine, but if get sick alot u probably would send home

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    • mamamanda
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2014
      • 1128

      #3
      Honestly, I'd be more concerned about the unvaccinated kid than the others. I don't see it as any different than a baby who hasn't had all their shots yet. As long as the kid isn't in school yet, they're exposure is probably similar to the other kids. And really many of the things we vaccinate for don't offer 100% protection anyway. A vaccinated child can still get measles or chicken pox. Its just usually a milder case for them. Same rate of contagiousness though as the unvaccinated kid would have. Just my opinion.

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      • jenboo
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 3180

        #4
        I don't do anything different.
        Why would I?
        What would you do? Quarantine them to one side of the room?

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        • NoMoreJuice!
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 715

          #5
          I would never enroll an unvaccinated child, because I like to work with clients(parents) who have similar views as mine. If they don't vaccinate, what other risks do they take? Drive with the child in the front seat of the car with no seat belt?

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          • nothingwithoutjoy
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2012
            • 1042

            #6
            Thank you for your replies. I'm probably just over-worrying. I can't say I completely disagree with the parent; my own child's vaccines have been delayed and stretched out one at a time. Just thinking about all the possibilities, mostly because it surprised me to see (somehow, I've been teaching for 22 years and this is the first time I've encountered this).

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            • Angelsj
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 1323

              #7
              Originally posted by NoMoreJuice!
              I would never enroll an unvaccinated child, because I like to work with clients(parents) who have similar views as mine. If they don't vaccinate, what other risks do they take? Drive with the child in the front seat of the car with no seat belt?
              Working with others who have view similar to yours...fine. Disparaging those who have different views...not ok.

              Personally, I feel it is YOU taking the risks by vaccinating. Just because we have different views does not mean I have a right to get flippant and say you must be taking risks such as driving with your child not in a car seat.

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              • LysesKids
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2014
                • 2836

                #8
                Originally posted by NoMoreJuice!
                I would never enroll an unvaccinated child, because I like to work with clients(parents) who have similar views as mine. If they don't vaccinate, what other risks do they take? Drive with the child in the front seat of the car with no seat belt?
                No offense but there are other reasons kids can't get vaxed besides a parents wishes; maybe they had a bad reaction to the first set of shots & a Dr waived them because he thought it could do more damage than good, or perhaps because of cancer of someone in the family, a child can't get a live vaccine without causing issues for the person (both scenarios happened to me). Your attitude is uncalled for because you are judging people based on one thing without knowing the reason behind it

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                • MrsSteinel'sHouse
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1509

                  #9
                  ok, I did not vaccinate my son until he was 17. I knew we would do it before college and he was heading to Spain. I don't know why I didn't vaccinate him I did his sister. I think God saved him He is HIGHLY chemical sensitive but we didn't know that until he was 8. So when we did the vaccinations we did them one at a time and spread out so he could recover from each. I didn't do the chicken pox since he had it! Yay and whooping cough he had and after discussing it with my doc we left that he will get his booster DTap on time.
                  But I did NOT "take other risks" with my son. In fact knowing now what I know, that would have been the risk. Non vaccinators do it for a large variety of reasons.

                  Now to original question- I have a non vaccinated little girl right now. The only "extra precaution" I take is when other kidlets are vaccinated I am sure that I change her on a different changing pad. I sanitize between kids but this would be the only "danger" to non baby so I take the extra step. After vaccines your body sheds the virus through your bowels. So if for example if you have a compromised immune system, you should be very cautious when changing diapers. Using normal precautions should be fine. But that is the only extra that I do. Oh and since I have 2 babies same age when the one got his shots last week I made sure that they were not together to play for that week because he had a reaction to the shots. No contact of toys or equipment between the two of them (4 months old) Little guy had diarrhea and doc said shots but... didn't want to share germs in case

                  Anyway normal precautions are all that you can do.

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                  • nothingwithoutjoy
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 1042

                    #10
                    Thank you. Luckily, the child is 5--out of diapers and not mouthing anything.

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                    • BumbleBee
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 2380

                      #11
                      I have a few who are unvaccinated for various reasons. Honestly I don't take any extra precautions. I exclude for fever or potential contagious illness and whether they're vaccinated or not doesn't play into that. I know people have different ways of doing things as far as precautions go but that's what I do.

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                      • Scribbles
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 101

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NoMoreJuice!
                        I would never enroll an unvaccinated child, because I like to work with clients(parents) who have similar views as mine. If they don't vaccinate, what other risks do they take? Drive with the child in the front seat of the car with no seat belt?
                        Originally posted by Angelsj
                        Working with others who have view similar to yours...fine. Disparaging those who have different views...not ok.

                        Personally, I feel it is YOU taking the risks by vaccinating. Just because we have different views does not mean I have a right to get flippant and say you must be taking risks such as driving with your child not in a car seat.
                        How is she disparaging others with a different viewpoint?
                        She DOES feel its a risk when you don't vaccinate. Why is her belief that it IS a risk any less valid than those that don't feel it's a risk?
                        It seems every time someone asks a question about vaccinations, a debate ensues. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want and I didn't read anything in her post that was negative or mean towards anyone else.
                        She said she likes to work with parents that share her same beliefs. She didn't say she only works with parents that are right or wrong.

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                        • LysesKids
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 2836

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Scribbles
                          How is she disparaging others with a different viewpoint?
                          She DOES feel its a risk when you don't vaccinate. Why is her belief that it IS a risk any less valid than those that don't feel it's a risk?
                          It seems every time someone asks a question about vaccinations, a debate ensues. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want and I didn't read anything in her post that was negative or mean towards anyone else.
                          She said she likes to work with parents that share her same beliefs. She didn't say she only works with parents that are right or wrong.
                          The flippant attitude came when OP stated "If they don't vaccinate, what other risks do they take? Drive with the child in the front seat of the car with no seat belt?".

                          That came across wrong to me & a few others... everyone has their own reasons for doing what they do, but don't assume just because they do one thing you don't, does it mean they are reckless elsewhere in their life which is how it comes out

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                          • NeedaVaca
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2276

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NoMoreJuice!
                            I would never enroll an unvaccinated child, because I like to work with clients(parents) who have similar views as mine. If they don't vaccinate, what other risks do they take? Drive with the child in the front seat of the car with no seat belt?
                            Seriously?

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                            • Snowmom
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 1689

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nothingwithoutjoy
                              Oh, boy, I know this is a heated one. And I know there are old posts (in fact, I think I started one a few years back), but I'm hoping for quick and specific. I've just enrolled a new child who starts Tuesday; got his paperwork today (more last-second than I usually do), and found out he's unvaccinated. I haven't had anyone unvaccinated before. I am wondering, for those who have enrolled unvaccinated children, do you have certain policies in place? My main concern is the littlest kids, who haven't completed their vaccinations yet, and the infants who may come to pick up big siblings. I wonder about their exposure to stuff they may not encounter otherwise. (Though of course who knows what they'll come across at the playground, etc....but here, I feel responsible.) I was trying to find suggestions online and saw something saying to exclude if there's an outbreak of something there's a vaccine for. Made me wonder how I'd even know, and how I could charge for something like that (i.e. dck not actually sick). Seems excessive, but as I said, I have no experience with this. Advice?
                              I would just send a friendly email to your licensor to see if there are any requirements you aren't currently aware of.
                              Some states require you to inform other parents that you are caring for an unvaccinated child when their child is present (keeping confidentiality of course), and some states don't require anything but the standard paperwork.
                              However, you do have the right to refuse care if it concerns you.

                              Personally, I do not take in unvaccinated children. I prefer that all kids get flu shots yearly too. That's MY choice. I don't have anything personal against those that choose not to vaccinate. But, this is my home, my business, my liability for those in my care.
                              I write directly on the immunization form which parents are required to manually fill out, that I will not accept children who are not up to date on immunizations.

                              I also find it a little sneaky that you are just now finding this out. This is a controversial issue and although they have every right to choose what they do or don't do in terms of health for their child; that is not something that shouldn't have been asked or discussed during the interview process (on their part).
                              Maybe that's just me.

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