Enabler Mom Is Making Me Mad

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    Enabler Mom Is Making Me Mad

    I have a DCB who is the ruler of his house. He demands. He gets. He cries. He gets. Mom does everything for him. Talks for him, etc. For ME he is fine. I have rules. They are black and white. For HER he is not so well behaved. Example, Mom helped at my church last year and her son spent his time running around the church to the point that the other kids were making comments that he was being a bad boy. Mom is a sweetie. Child is good for me. But together?! Owe!!!! And believe me he knows how to play the fiddle well!

    So lately he has been giving her some issues in the morning at drop off. Might have a lot to do with he cries and he gets what he wants. Here it gets him a time out. I do not deal with my older kids crying for things or cause they don't get their way. He wants to stay home, he cries and gets to stay home. He wants a toy, he cries and she gets it. Instead of saying enough at drop off when he misbehaves she rewards with "Oh don't cry XXXXie, I will be back soon and we will go to Chick filet...toys r us....the mall.....etc" Misbehave= reward. So the last few months mom has been bringing him with what started as an ipad. It was fine. I allowed it cause when he arrives I am going buses and breakfast clean up. So I let him sit at the table while I took care of things and then it got shut down. Ten min max. Now he arrives with THREE...not one....THREE game boys too, his ipad and a box of games. We cry for games we forgot. We cry cause mom left one of the gameboys home last week. He cries cause he wants to stay in the car and play. He cries on the way cause he knows when he comes here is won't get to play the games all day. He cries cause he wants to stay home with dad who isn't working Etc etc. He cries here, he loses the game. I tell him only big boys get the privilege and crying is not a big boy. He arrives crying. They get taken away. I know this is half the issue. Its gotten out of control. Taking them away is no longer working and making the issue larger.

    He hasn't been here since Monday due to weather, dad being home, etc. Today he gets up and cries he wants to stay home. When mom says he has to go he then says he is 'afraid' and wants to stay home. So I get a TEXT, not a call, asking if something happened Monday. He's 'afraid'. Hes never said that before. Seriously? First it is inappropriate to text this convo. So I am already upset over it. Then, what did she expect me to say to that? I WANT to say "You are enabling his bad behavior but rewarding him when she acts out. Hes been home for three days now and is crying to stay home cause dad is home and you rewarded it by saying ok. This has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with you. Leave the games home, put his tush in the car and put an end to it.. If you think you helped the situation you have only made it worse and he will act out tomorrow. Knock off the crap! " But I know I can't really say that. I am really pissed off she would even text that message to me. In the end, I have known this family for 5 years. Mom is the only parent I permit on my facebook cause I view them as friends. So I know her question is more benign. Like "Did he have a bad naptime and that is why he is saying that" kinda thing. But I am taking it much more personally. I love them. They are the sweetest family. But her parenting skills are driving me batty and I do NOT appreciate that text. She might intend it to be benign but I take it accusing and offensive. And let me tell you I am NOT a happy camper right now.

    So today... DCB won. Again. He has now been home four days. She will talk with him tonight about why he is 'afraid' and will see me in the morning. She is not seeing that he cried, got his way and will spend the whole day playing video games with his dad for his reward. And in the morning, as a result, he will arrive crying.....holding onto his electronic stash....and refusing to let his mother go cause he wants to go home. After all it worked for the rest of the week. And I will get to be the meanie in the end. And so the cycle continues. I have sad news though. He will be told tomorrow no more games or ipad. Done. I believe that is half his issue. She might not be bothered by her electronic babysitting devices but I have had enough. Next time she texts me it WILL be cause DCB really is afraid. Afraid he will have to go and be told NO!

    Sorry for the rant. Just that text sent me over the edge today. I just needed to bust out cause its been being held in since Dec and I am done!!
  • Meeko
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 4350

    #2
    If you think of the mom as a friend and want it to stay that way, then it's time for a serious talk and action.

    You need to lay it all out on the line. If not, you will resent the situation more and more.

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    • Heidi
      Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 7121

      #3
      Oh lord, this is where it's headed with my dcm of 2 yo!

      It used to be some mornings, she'd throw a fit when mom left (yes, throw a fit, because she's been here since she's 6 weeks old, 50 hours a week, so she's very comfortable here).

      Lately, EVERY SINGLE DAY I have to order her out the door, basically. She is not even out of the driveway yet before LO stops.

      Maybe the fact that she gets up at 4:15 am (and is not told to get her tuckus back in bed) plays into it...

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      • nannyde
        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
        • Mar 2010
        • 7320

        #4
        I would escalate this. I would agree he is scared to death to come to my house and DEMAND he be evaluated by a child psychiatrist MD before he can return. It sounds like he is severely traumatized and it is time for him to be evaluated and treated.

        I would also say that regardless of his diagnosis he is not to bring anything from home into yours. He can have a car full of electronics but they can not come onto your property. She needs to bring him to the front door and hand him off without coming in. If he says no and gets physical she needs to remain outside with him until he can enter the home calmly without a tear.

        If she knows he can't manage that then back to the Psychiatrist they need to go.
        http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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        • daycarediva
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 11698

          #5
          I would say something "Dcm, I will be frank with you. Dcb is fine here all day. He is getting his way with you by acting up. We need to stop bringing items from home as that only escalates the behavior. No more toys from home, and do a quick kiss goodbye. I'll text you a picture of him playing fine within minutes. This will help EVERYONE have much better mornings."

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          • Crystal
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 4002

            #6
            It seems to me that if they have the ability to keep him home every time he demands it, then they do not really need care. I would let them go - friends or not.

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            • Josiegirl
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 10834

              #7
              Dcm, I consider you more than just a dcparent, I consider you a friend. So hopefully I can tell you this without offending you. From where I'm seeing this situation, this is what's happening(here you can nicely tell her the vicious cycle you're seeing with him crying and getting his way so if he doesn't get his way he cries louder and longer and yes, of course he'd rather be home with his dad, most kids would rather be home with a parent). Now I'm not sure what you need out of daycare for your ds but what's going on at the moment is not working for anyone, especially dcb. You can either choose to work with me and we'll get dcb to transitioning smoothly again or maybe dcb would be happier at home with dad. BUT for this to work, these are the things I will need from you.

              List them and if she challenges any of them, stay firm and tell her maybe dcb needs to be home. Don't give in. They're creating a monster and are probably too close to the situation to see it.

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              • BabyMonkeys
                Daycare.com Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 370

                #8
                He is telling the truth. He is afraid. He's afraid that you are not going to let him do anything he wants. He's afraid because he knows that when he misbehaves there are going to be consequences.

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                • Unregistered

                  #9
                  Originally posted by angelw2babies
                  He is telling the truth. He is afraid. He's afraid that you are not going to let him do anything he wants. He's afraid because he knows that when he misbehaves there are going to be consequences.
                  Yep! Have you read the "bye bye outside" idea?

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                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #10
                    Originally posted by angelw2babies
                    He is telling the truth. He is afraid. He's afraid that you are not going to let him do anything he wants. He's afraid because he knows that when he misbehaves there are going to be consequences.
                    I had a dcb tell me this the other day he said it to my face.

                    I don't like You. I asked why. He said because I'm afraid of you. I said what afraid I mught hug you to death. He said no I'm afraid of you because you make me listen and I don't like to listen and I don't want to do what you want me too.

                    I took video of it and sent it to his parents.

                    They have all kinds of issues with DCK at home. I don't have any

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                    • Unregistered

                      #11
                      ^how did you get video of that? You had the camera ready to go and then he said he didn't like you etc? Or what?!

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                      • BumbleBee
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2380

                        #12
                        This isn't meant to sound harsh but it may come across that way. You have 2 choices, either have a serious heart to heart with mom where you put it all on the table, or term.

                        I had a very similar situation happen this past fall and it escalated to the point where I thought CPS was going to come knocking. DCB lied to his mom about me hitting him and I was certain I was going to be shut down based on an accusation. It started with 'I'm afraid to go to daycare' and before I knew what was happening I was getting a phone call from an understandably upset and angry dcm regarding alleged abuse.

                        Don't let it get to that point. Put your foot down with mom. I wouldn't wish my experience on anybody and thankfully we were able to resolve the issue but it still bothers me.

                        Best of luck to you in whatever you choose to do.

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