Would You Take On This Family?

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  • Jazminsdaycare
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 62

    #16
    wow too scary,
    for the protection of all the children in your care and for a safe stress free delivery of your baby I would pass on this one

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    • NightOwl
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2014
      • 2722

      #17
      Be prepared for that protection order to change once he's released and wants to see his kid. Then he will be in your house to pick up. It may take a few months, but it will likely happen.

      If you take them, I would INSIST that she not share the children's location. He doesn't need to know where his kid is if he can't see them anyway. And if you find out that she told him where you are located, term immediately.

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      • TwinKristi
        Family Childcare Provider
        • Aug 2013
        • 2390

        #18
        I've had 2 families with similar issues, criminal & civil protective orders, no contact orders, domestic abuse, etc.

        I keep all court orders on file and make sure the parents have updated emergency contacts and alternate pick up people that do NOT include said parent.

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        • SignMeUp
          Family ChildCare Provider
          • Jan 2014
          • 1325

          #19
          Personally, I would pass. Here's a situation close to me. Not the same, but a family (a nice family) whose personal lives had some big ups and downs during the years that I knew them.

          I had a daycare family a few years ago. After I cared for the oldest child for 9 years, dcm remarried. Eventually they moved to a new neighborhood, and had a child.

          While leaving their next daycare home after picking up the kids, new dad shot mom while in the car. She was hospitalized for six months and came home with a colostomy bag and a permanently disabled right arm and hand. She never worked again.
          Both kids had so much blood on them that emergency responders initially believed he had shot all three.

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          • LovetheSun
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 159

            #20
            It might sound uncaring but Probably wouldn't Drama is never good!

            But I would meet the family and see how they are. Depending on the feelings would accept or not but I would be afraid to bring the drama at the daycare, imagine if dad shows up and argue there?

            I have close friend who separated and the dad doesn't realize how badly he behave. They were almost kick off their old apartment and the dad would argue with the mom in front of the daycare (where everyone could hear). He wasn't aggressive to the point where the police was called but it does look bad and isn't good for the littles ones...

            Maybe ask the mom to not share the daycare address?

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            • Checkinkids.com
              virtuclock.com developer
              • Mar 2011
              • 76

              #21
              Pass

              It sounds tough, but I would pass. This kind of client may be better suited for a daycare center. Too much stress to have around a home daycare. We had issues with one family bringing (loud) drama into our house at pickup time. We almost lost other good clients because of it.

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              • Unregistered

                #22
                I would take them ... they need to be in a loving environment and know they are safe!! In saying this .. I would have my phone programed ... and have a copy of the order and request that the fathers do not pick up the children!! Ask in advance who will be on her pick up list ... FYI I dislike the single mom excuse .. that's just me .. but am not going to go on and on on here! Just make sure you are protected as far as having a copy - check the dates as they do expire!!

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                • taylorw1210
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 487

                  #23
                  I would take him with all the proper paperwork, which it sounds like she's more than willing to provide you. I had a little boy who was signed over to his biological aunt by his biological mother, while the father was in prison. The father was attempting to fight the custody issue while in prison. He was out for a bit but then arrested again, and during that time I made sure I had all the necessary paperwork readily available in case he found out where the boy spent his days.

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                  • DaveA
                    Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 4245

                    #24
                    I wouldn't pass on them, but you need to make sure that the Order of Protection is current and covers no contact with the children. I would say to set the "thanks but no thanks" bar lower than usual. If something seems off in the interview, you are allowed to put personal safety concerns over an enrollment.

                    If he's not allowed to have contact with the child, stress to the DCM that the father does NOT need to know where the children are in care.

                    Either way, I would talk to your local PD. Letting them know about the situation and the a home daycare in the area is information that they appreciate having in advance.

                    Good Luck.

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                    • Jazminsdaycare
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 62

                      #25
                      I am more concerned about your pregnancy than anything or anybody
                      I had a high risk pregnancy due to stress and almost died
                      This is not to scare you just something to ponder


                      This guy is a known felon and you don't want this families problems in your home
                      I took a child with the same type of custody situation
                      It wasn't that the parent was violent but the mom had smoked pot around the kid and had a protection order
                      and I never met her but every time a strange car pulled up I thought " is that her?" will she try to barge in here to take her daughter?
                      what will I do? is my phone on me to call 911? ( and I was pregnant)
                      This is something that you don't want to go through
                      Look out for the protection of your kids and especailly that little one in your tummy
                      lovethis

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                      • KiddieCahoots
                        FCC Educator
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1349

                        #26
                        I guess it would depend on how aggressive the father is.
                        I mean, he went to jail for beating the other father, not the mother, and not the child.
                        Sounds like it could be a jealousy issue with the ex and his child, mix that with male hormones, and oh boy!
                        Checking with your local PD sounds like a good start, if they're able to give you inside information.
                        I work with a lot children who have similar situations, some have had both parents issued restraining orders to keep away from the child.
                        I make sure all the paperwork is correct and current......haven't had a problem.
                        Last edited by KiddieCahoots; 09-03-2014, 06:41 AM. Reason: rewording

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                        • tntsmom
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 57

                          #27
                          Maybe

                          You cannot discriminate, but you must protect yourself, business and other families in your care. It could do one of two things:
                          1. Create drama and safety issues in your care
                          Or
                          2. Nothing may happen and have a very grateful mom and you provide normalcy to their lives
                          A choice only you can make and it is similar to a sole custody agreement.

                          Good Luck on your interview and pray for them.

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                          • mia
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 271

                            #28
                            Originally posted by renodeb
                            Truthfully, I would probably Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!to many variables. Would love to know what happens though.


                            Sorry to say I'm with Renodeb..... to much unknowns..... for the safety of yourself, unborn child, Dck's etc.... I'd probably pass......

                            Good luck either way...

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                            • Unregistered

                              #29
                              a small update

                              The interview went really well. She seemed genuinely nice, not fake. The boys were very smart and well cared for.
                              I DID find out that the father in jail hurt at least his own son, and maybe the stepbrother. The boy has hearing loss from being hit.
                              The slight bright side I can find to that is that he will NOT be getting custody even if he does get out.
                              She's supposed to be bringing enrollment papers (including her specialty papers) Tuesday or Wednesday.

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                              • Blackcat31
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 36124

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered
                                The interview went really well. She seemed genuinely nice, not fake. The boys were very smart and well cared for.
                                I DID find out that the father in jail hurt at least his own son, and maybe the stepbrother. The boy has hearing loss from being hit.
                                The slight bright side I can find to that is that he will NOT be getting custody even if he does get out.
                                She's supposed to be bringing enrollment papers (including her specialty papers) Tuesday or Wednesday.
                                Thanks for the update!

                                Hoping all her paperwork is up to date and current.

                                Like I said before, I wouldn't hesitate to enroll if I had ALL the proper paperwork and had a plan in place for what to do if dad should show up.

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