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  • midaycare
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 5658

    Dhs

    I have a dcg here right now who is my first experience with DHS payments. I just received my first payment and it is more than I charge. Dcm gets a very high amount and a lot of hours. So ... What do I do since it is more than I charge? Reimburse DHS? Reimburse Dcm? Keep it as a credit for a week when she may fall short?
  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #2
    IMHO, if you are charging less than what subsidy believes to be the lowest rate, you may want to raise your rates.

    Generally they pay at the lowest rate possible within the average for your area.

    I would not refund DCM. She has not paid anything.

    If your conscience bothers you maybe donate to the local seniors center.
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • midaycare
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 5658

      #3
      Originally posted by Cat Herder
      IMHO, if you are charging less than what subsidy believes to be the lowest rate, you may want to raise your rates.

      Generally they pay at the lowest rate possible within the average for your area.

      I would not refund DCM. She has not paid anything.

      If your conscience bothers you maybe donate to the local seniors center.
      Dcm is a special case. She gets the max, automatically, because of certain things. That is $3.40 here. I charge $25-$32 a day, which is pretty standard for here.

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      • GabsKids
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 31

        #4
        I agree, you may want to raise your rates. In PA our subsidy, referred to as CCIS, I think is based on the average most licensed home daycares in the area charge. If I reported to them that I charged a lower rate, that is what they would pay me.
        If they overpaid me, I would just call them and let them know. They may take it off of your next check. But that way they can't come back and say you did anything wrong.

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        • DaveA
          Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
          • Jul 2014
          • 4245

          #5
          Originally posted by Cat Herder
          IMHO, if you are charging less than what subsidy believes to be the lowest rate, you may want to raise your rates.

          Generally they pay at the lowest rate possible within the average for your area.
          This- in our area DHS is cheap and slow to respond, so a lot of providers refuse to deal with them. I'd consider taking the amount over what you normally charge and saving it to use either for extra supply/ equipment purchases or personal use (date night fund?).

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          • midaycare
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 5658

            #6
            Hmmm... I'm not sure how much I can raise rates. If she was getting paid the normal DHS rates, I would agree, but she is getting $1.25 more per hour than the usual 100% rate around here. Like I said, just an unusual circumstance.

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            • Cat Herder
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 13744

              #7
              What circumstance allows someones kid to get more subsidy money than others?

              The chart says 95% even if below poverty level with 10 kids. It seems they still think they are paying less than 100% of the lowest average rate.

              If providers tell them it is too much, they will lower their rates for everyone. $3.40 is still below min. wage (yours will be $8.15 on the 1st of next month).

              You are not over billing. They are paying their set rate across the board, to all providers willing to accept subsidy. They get federal money to pay that rate. Your tax dollars. They want providers to agree to take subsidy clients.
              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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              • nanglgrl
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 1700

                #8
                If the child has special needs (even ADD in some cases) we are paid more from subsidy in Iowa. Maybe that's the case?

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                • kathiemarie
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 540

                  #9
                  I would keep the extra money. Put it aside for when she doesn't follow though and your are out income. If that never happens I would think of the money as a bonus and either treat myself to a massage or put it back into DC by buying new toys or supplies.

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                  • Play Care
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 6642

                    #10
                    I think I would call the office to speak to someone. I would be hesitant to keep the money. We had a sting here awhile back and several providers were arrested - I never got the nutty gritty so I don't know if they were claiming time they shouldn't have been (the child was out?) or they were getting overpaid and knew it?
                    I just have a personal policy that I only want to make the papers for good reasons - like winning the lottery::

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                    • midaycare
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 5658

                      #11
                      The dcm is of a certain heritage that is uncommon and I was told it gives her added benefits. I don't want to write more since you just never know who reads these.

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                      • TheGoodLife
                        Home Daycare Provider
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1372

                        #12
                        If they are paying a higher rate- that would go to you, right? They are paying a specific rate for child care, and you are providing that care. Can you have a contract that reflects that rate for her, or do you have to have the same rate for all families in your state? (I'm license exempt so I'm not familiar with all those regations).

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                        • craftymissbeth
                          Legally Unlicensed
                          • May 2012
                          • 2385

                          #13
                          I have a situation similar, but not really..

                          I signed up to accept state pay in May and one of my DCP's was signing up to receive benefits at the same time. DCF told me it'd be less than a month to get me all signed up so I told dcm that I would be ok holding off on her payments until she was given her benefits from the state... and I would just charge my $25 per week late payment fee. I was hurting for money, but it would have all worked out with the payment.

                          Well, DCF actually took their sweet time and I didn't get set up until the end of July! I ended up letting her wait all that time (I know, I know) so when I was finally ready to accept her payment, she had $3100 in the account and she transferred it all over at once so she overpaid by about $700... I just applied it towards future payments. Luckily, my state allows that.

                          And actually, she receives about $600 more per month than I charge. Lucky for me, she's been showing up later and later to pick up the kids (my rates are tiered based on pick up time) so I raised her rates and gave her a later pick up.
                          Last edited by craftymissbeth; 08-27-2014, 10:04 AM. Reason: Typo

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                          • Cat Herder
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 13744

                            #14
                            Originally posted by midaycare
                            The dcm is of a certain heritage that is uncommon and I was told it gives her added benefits. I don't want to write more since you just never know who reads these.
                            Cool lovethis Use that bit of extra income to get diversity materials to highlight as many uncommon heritages as possible. What a nice opportunity.
                            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                            • TheGoodLife
                              Home Daycare Provider
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1372

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cat Herder
                              Cool lovethis Use that bit of extra income to get diversity materials to highlight as many uncommon heritages as possible. What a nice opportunity.
                              Awesome idea

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