Would You Turn Unlicensed Providers In?

[Blackcat31]

It seems like she came back a time or two using different IP addresses. I have no idea if it's really her, but it could be possible.

I was thinking the same exact thing about QOTP!

Could beeee.......but then again, most ignoramuses sound like that. ::.........

Her speech patterns were more "educated" and didn't contain so many grammatical errors.

She also came with arguable content and not just a bunch of flimsy examples and baseless assumptions.

Also, as "annoying" as she was she didn't resort to name calling until her farewell post.

[aDCProvider]

Guess I haven't been here long enough....who is QOTP?

Also, didn't realize this would start such a heated debate?! I kind of feel bad for getting everyone riled up right before the weekend.

[Blackcat31]

Guess I haven't been here long enough....who is QOTP?

Also, didn't realize this would start such a heated debate?! I kind of feel bad for getting everyone riled up right before the weekend.

No worries.

This is not an old topic. Search illegal child care in the search bar and see how many threads come up.

There are always going to be those couple of subjects that get everyone going so I wouldn't worry about it.

As for Queen of the Playground (QotP)....she was just the latest in a long line of pot stirrers and drama mama's that keeps the forum on it's toes.

People like that are good for two things:

Keeping us entertained and setting a perfect example of what not to do.

[aDCProvider]

No worries.

This is not an old topic. Search illegal child care in the search bar and see how many threads come up.

There are always going to be those couple of subjects that get everyone going so I wouldn't worry about it.

As for Queen of the Playground (QotP)....she was just the latest in a long line of pot stirrers and drama mama's that keeps the forum on it's toes.

People like that are good for two things:

Keeping us entertained and setting a perfect example of what not to do.

Oh, I do remember her, must have missed her last words, don't remember any drama like that!

[LysesKids]

If you understood, then I'm not getting why you felt I was talking about unlicensed providers in general...since you went on to explain how you're legally unlicensed. If your state lets you run unlicensed then I'm glad for you... I wish I COULD run unlicensed. But my opinion is that if a person is illegally unlicensed then they DO have something to hide. Just my opinion.

I get the illegal part, but some people didn't know there was a difference until this thread started... The thread started out as would you turn unlicensed providers in, it didn't say illegal unlicensed and somewhere along the line alot of people who didn't know there are actually two different types of unlicensed figured it out.

I myself have been turned in when i was in complete compliance because someone didn't know the rules - they assumed providers posting on CL in Kansas city had to follow the new KS rules; I literally lived one block off state line in MO and was a registered provider that took vouchers. People were turning all unlicensed providers in regardless of which side of border you lived in... it still happens because people assume instead of looking up reg's

[Blackcat31]

TONS of other threads about this subject.

https://www.daycare.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71991

https://www.daycare.com/forum/tags.php?tag=illegal+providers

https://www.daycare.com/forum/tags.php?tag=illegal+daycare

[Annalee]

I get the illegal part, but some people didn't know there was a difference until this thread started... The thread started out as would you turn unlicensed providers in, it didn't say illegal unlicensed and somewhere along the line alot of people who didn't know there are actually two different types of unlicensed figured it out.

I myself have been turned in when i was in complete compliance because someone didn't know the rules - they assumed providers posting on CL in Kansas city had to follow the new KS rules; I literally lived one block off state line in MO and was a registered provider that took vouchers. People were turning all unlicensed providers in regardless of which side of border you lived in... it still happens because people assume instead of looking up reg's

It is so easy to cheat on the rules if you are unlicensed....many are on the food program and count children as related when they are NOT so they can keep more kids.....just like the old saying "a few bad apples spoil the bunch". THe rule is here you can keep 4 non-related and as many as you want related with no guidelines.....and NO ONE checks it! I have to pay annual health fee, business license, daycare license, property tax, meet material demands of QRIS, etc... and these illegal providers have to do NOTHING!!!!! But NO ONE will check it out!!!!!

[melilley]

I get the illegal part, but some people didn't know there was a difference until this thread started... The thread started out as would you turn unlicensed providers in, it didn't say illegal unlicensed and somewhere along the line alot of people who didn't know there are actually two different types of unlicensed figured it out.

I didn't know that there was a difference until I came to this forum. In my state you have to be licensed/registered if you care for any unrelated children and I just assumed that it was the same in every state.

[Heidi]

I get the illegal part, but some people didn't know there was a difference until this thread started... The thread started out as would you turn unlicensed providers in, it didn't say illegal unlicensed and somewhere along the line alot of people who didn't know there are actually two different types of unlicensed figured it out.

I myself have been turned in when i was in complete compliance because someone didn't know the rules - they assumed providers posting on CL in Kansas city had to follow the new KS rules; I literally lived one block off state line in MO and was a registered provider that took vouchers. People were turning all unlicensed providers in regardless of which side of border you lived in... it still happens because people assume instead of looking up reg's

My apologies to the OP if she simply meant unlicensed. As long as it's legally unlicensed, I have no issues with it.

Me, I don't go out of my way to sleuth around wondering who's legal and who's not. It's really only when it's blatant (like everybody talks about how so-and-so has 15 kids or if she's advertising "I don't do tax time claiming") that I bother. If my next door neighbor cared for 3 kids under age 7 normally, and one day I saw she had 4, I wouldn't call 911. If I knew they were parked in front of the TV all day eating Cheetos in a filthy house, while she was in the other room watching soaps, or playing outside unattended, I would probably report it.

Some people here will say 4 or 15...doesn't matter. I'm more "spirit of the law" than "letter of the law" myself, but that's just how I roll.

[LysesKids]

Not to change the topic but.....
Turns out, after to some internet digging, the woman who asked me about my license/ratio.... is an owner of licensed daycare 20 min away from me! What nerve! She posts on the same CL and everything. But seriously, is it really that cut throat? I mean I would never do that! I got my ducks in a row, why bother me? *sigh*

Sorry some providers go that far... I had a center in AR open right down the street 3 years ago that wanted to know how I ran, what I charged etc.. (owner called me direct). It's all right there on my website people. Don't expect me to explain the Eco certs to you, you'll have to earn that one yourself

Seriously, was I that big of a threat to a 50 + kid center ( I had 5 kids at most) because I was within .5 miles? Apparently I was, she set her rates to undercut mine - she was out of business within 2 months also .

[CraftyMom]

If I didn't know better, I'd say you sound a whole lot like our old friend QOTP.

Ha! I was wondering if I was the only one who thought this?::

[mountainside13]

I guessed it was her before I got caught up on the thread. I was really hoping I would be the first one to mention it ::

I am legally unlicensed and I'm not fired up about this topic. I notified DHS about a woman on CL advertising she had 5 openings, she currently has 12 children and is not registered because it's too much work. She was/is charging $50 a week per kid!

[melilley]

I notified DHS about a woman on CL advertising she had 5 openings, she currently has 12 children and is not registered because it's too much work. She was/is charging $50 a week per kid!

What? How? $50 a week! Well I guess if she has 12 by herself, she would make what I make with 5, if not more. That's insane though.

[mountainside13]

What? How? $50 a week! Well I guess if she has 12 by herself, she would make what I make with 5, if not more. That's insane though.

17 kids total! No idea if it was just her or if she had someone there with her. I couldn't let that one slide. I would think getting registered, doing everything required to get registered would be easier than caring for 17 kids. IMHO!

[melilley]

17 kids total! No idea if it was just her or if she had someone there with her. I couldn't let that one slide. I would think getting registered, doing everything required to get registered would be easier than caring for 17 kids. IMHO!

No doubt! I couldn't imagine taking care of that many kids in my home, even with someone else!