Suggestions Needed, Can't Use Antibacterial Soap

[lovemykidstoo]

I don't honor parents wishes when it's against what's healthy and in some areas against regs.

I would for SURE expect the child's physician to list their recommended products, not necessarily what mom thinks is ok just because.

What if mom says use dove bar and it royally messes up the child.

As someone smarter than me always says, parents can't give us permission to do the wrong thing. Not that it is the wrong thing... I just won't use bar soap, no matter what. So mom would have to give me other recommendations from a doc

I understand completely if you don't want to go against regulations, but why do you think that the parent of the child is less informed than you are about what product is right for their child? So, what did you tell the mother? If the dove messes up the child, then it's on the mother since she's the one that told you to use it. What if you go against her wishes and use something else and it messes up the child? What then? Again, totally with you if the bar is against regs.

Maybe have her get doctor note? That way you know it's from an informed source?


After re-reading this, I hope it doesn't sound argumentative, I certainly didn't mean it that way. Just curious on different aspects of this.

[Cat Herder]

Cetaphil is gentle but still has triclosan in it.

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Mine doesn't. :confused:

water, cetyl alcohol, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulfate, stearyl alcohol, methylparaben, propylparaben, and butylparaben

Maybe the antibacterial one does, IDK? Mine is just non-scented soap.

I did not know aveeno made a liquid hand soap. Will look for it.

[Cradle2crayons]

I understand completely if you don't want to go against regulations, but why do you think that the parent of the child is less informed than you are about what product is right for their child? So, what did you tell the mother? If the dove messes up the child, then it's on the mother since she's the one that told you to use it. What if you go against her wishes and use something else and it messes up the child? What then? Again, totally with you if the bar is against regs.

Maybe have her get doctor note? That way you know it's from an informed source?

Dr notes are my default in this scenario. The op asked for suggestions as far as product was concerned.

And no, regardless of what mom wants, I won't use bar soap here. I'm not licensed though but bar soaps are against regs in some areas.

If a mom told me to give a child four ibuprofen I wouldn't so that either. It's not okay, especially with a medical issue, to just assume parents know what they are talking about.

Ina medical issue, I always send mom with one of my dr forms. On it I would let he dr know I need a non bar soap option and a list of products to avoid etc.

If it's not a medical issue that's different. But eczema in kids can result in secondary infections etc. And everybody is different. Some can use triclosan, some can't. Some can use certain lotions some can't.

I'm just saying I won't use a bar soap regardless.

The op asked for suggestions on product. We are all giving suggestions.

But the main thing is to get a list of allowed and not recommend products from a dr and not assume a parent knows. Or even to assume I know. All dr like different products.

And no, I don't take it as argumentative at all we all do things different. If we were all the same, it'd get a little boring

[Cradle2crayons]

Mine doesn't. :confused:

water, cetyl alcohol, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulfate, stearyl alcohol, methylparaben, propylparaben, and butylparaben

Maybe the antibacterial one does, IDK? Mine is just non-scented soap.

I did not know aveeno made a liquid hand soap. Will look for it.

Mine doesn't have triclosan in it either... I use this one....

http://www.amazon.com/Cetaphil-Gentle-Cleanser-16-Ounce-Bottles/dp/B001ET76EY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1393897094&sr=8-2&keywords=cetaphil+gentle+skin+cleanser

[Childminder]

What about using a mild bleach solution? I know that bleach baths are recommended for children with eczema
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[daycare]

Dr notes are my default in this scenario. The op asked for suggestions as far as product was concerned.

And no, regardless of what mom wants, I won't use bar soap here. I'm not licensed though but bar soaps are against regs in some areas.

If a mom told me to give a child four ibuprofen I wouldn't so that either. It's not okay, especially with a medical issue, to just assume parents know what they are talking about.

Ina medical issue, I always send mom with one of my dr forms. On it I would let he dr know I need a non bar soap option and a list of products to avoid etc.

If it's not a medical issue that's different. But eczema in kids can result in secondary infections etc. And everybody is different. Some can use triclosan, some can't. Some can use certain lotions some can't.

I'm just saying I won't use a bar soap regardless.

The op asked for suggestions on product. We are all giving suggestions.

But the main thing is to get a list of allowed and not recommend products from a dr and not assume a parent knows. Or even to assume I know. All dr like different products.

And no, I don't take it as argumentative at all we all do things different. If we were all the same, it'd get a little boring

If it's not a medical issue that's different. But eczema in kids can result in secondary infections etc. And everybody is different. Some can use triclosan, some can't. Some can use certain lotions some can't.

I never knew this and now that I do, I guess it makes sense that I should not use it without a Dr. consent.

[Blackcat31]

Mine doesn't. :confused:

water, cetyl alcohol, propylene glycol, sodium lauryl sulfate, stearyl alcohol, methylparaben, propylparaben, and butylparaben

Maybe the antibacterial one does, IDK? Mine is just non-scented soap.

I did not know aveeno made a liquid hand soap. Will look for it.

I didn't realize there were so many "versions" I have the bar soap. It says 0.3% triclosan as the active ingredient.

http://www.cetaphil.com/products/antibacterial-cleaning-bar/

Browsing around the other types, it appears not all of them have triclosan.
My bad.

[daycare]

I didn't realize there were so many "versions" I have the bar soap. It says 0.3% triclosan as the active ingredient.

http://www.cetaphil.com/products/antibacterial-cleaning-bar/

Browsing around the other types, it appears not all of them have triclosan.
My bad.

I never knew soap could be so complicated.........

[lovemykidstoo]

I know one thing, I wouldn't use anything to wash the childs hands except what the parent is requesting, of course in bottle form, not in bar form. This would have to be in writing. I would request a note from dr. I also cannot put even lotion on a child without a written statement either.

To OP I would just tell parent that whatever they decide to use, have them check with the doctor and bring in a note. I would not even attempt to be the expert in that situation.

[Blackcat31]

I never knew soap could be so complicated.........

:: me either....

I was just thinking "Wow! This is a busy thread!" ::

[lovemykidstoo]

:: me either....

I was just thinking "Wow! This is a busy thread!" ::

bwahaha! It certainly is. It's kinda weird because I had just been reading something about anti-bacterial soap the other day and how it's not necessary. Remember "back in the day" before we had anti-bacterial and just had regular soap. ::

[Cat Herder]

I never knew soap could be so complicated.........

Aha! Found the confusing cetaphil buzzword.

Cleanser.

I use the "soap free" cleanser.... not hand soap.

So, my liquid hand soap is not soap at all :confused:. It is non-soap. Mind blown... shhh... don't tell the State... ::::::

I use it because that is what my DR. gave me after a bad *latex* reaction... I liked it. I keep buying it.

[lovemykidstoo]

Aha! Found the confusing cetaphil buzzword.

Cleanser.

I use the "soap free" cleanser.... not hand soap.

So, my liquid hand soap is not soap at all :confused:. It is non-soap. Mind blown... shhh... don't tell the State... ::::::

I use it because that is what my DR. gave me after a bad silicone reaction... I liked it. I keep buying it.

Just tell licensing it's non-soap soap. hahaha! That will confuse the daylights out of them.

[sharlan]

If it's not a medical issue that's different. But eczema in kids can result in secondary infections etc. And everybody is different. Some can use triclosan, some can't. Some can use certain lotions some can't.
I never knew this and now that I do, I guess it makes sense that I should not use it without a Dr. consent.

Two of my grandkids have severe ezcema - brother and sister - what was good to use on one, turned the other one bright red in seconds. I could use Gold Bond lotion on one, but it burned the other one to the point of tears. Both had to have different soaps and lotions.

[daycare]

I didnt stop to think about cross contamination with bar soap, even though I would never use it on another child. I am sure that the state would say that I can't prove I am not using it on another child. Which technically I cant. I just threw it out, DCP are brining in aveno pump soap until doc note comes in. DCM said it was approved by the doctor.

Sharlan, That is very interesting about your GK. thanks for sharing, we need to remember that we are all different and will react differently too.