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  • Kabob
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 1106

    Am I Being Unreasonable?

    So I'm still struggling with the mom of dcb that got surgery last week. He's been running a low fever since then apparently and is still in a lot of pain which makes him irritable when his ibuprofen wears off apparently so apparently dcm wants me to give him ibuprofen around the clock. My policy handbook doesn't cover giving meds around the clock because I never thought I'd encounter this situation. Dcm wants me to constantly give him ibuprofen because her nurse friend said so. She also can get a dr note no problem. However, regardless of the note, I don't feel comfortable dosing him constantly especially if he's been dosed like this for a week (since he hasn't been here). Once again this is a situation she sprung on me at drop off and left. I am struggling today especially as morning sickness has hit me hard so I don't want to sound.....um....grumpy? Am I being unreasonable if I tell her I won't dose him more than once and if he really is that bad he should go home?
  • CedarCreek
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1600

    #2
    Yes, if he is in that much pain that he needs meds around the clock and you are not comfortable giving it, he should be at home!!

    I would never send my son to daycare if he was still in pain from surgery!!!

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    • jenn
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 695

      #3
      If he is in enough pain to need the meds, he is in too much pain to be there. If he cannot participate normally without medication, he should be at home. I don't think that is unreasonable.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        I'm sorry but he shouldn't have been allowed to attend in the first place.

        This poor little guy needs to be home recuperating in the comfort of his own home.

        I get that parents HAVE to work, but come on....her baby had surgery. Take the time off to be with him.

        I would absolutely tell mom you will not dose him.

        I personally wouldn't agree to even doing it once.

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        • Kabob
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 1106

          #5
          She was frustrated that he hasn't been better after over a week since ear tubes and adenoidectomy is "supposed to be a simple surgery" and she doesn't want to miss more work for this surgery. I get that and offered her to keep him home without having to pay for those days he's gone but if I send him home then she pays full price. So I just don't get it...I know missing work costs money too...but geez...

          Also...how can I avoid her springing stuff on me in the middle of drop offs? Just say no to all last minute requests? I'm tempted to send out a message that all requests not made a minimum of 24 hours in advance will not be honored. I know with experience I'll be able to rebuff her attempts to slip stuff by easier but lately she claims she forgot to tell me until the last minute...and it is frustrating that my inexperience with this is showing...

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          • Cradle2crayons
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 3642

            #6
            I would totally send mom and child to the dr with one of my forms and then I would determine from that point if the child was well enough for daycare.

            There is NO REASON this child should still be in that much pain after that type of surgery that requires around the clock meds of any type to control. That being said, something may not be healing right. Hence, I'd exclude until my dr form is filled out. And let me clarify. MY. DR. FORM. not moms and not a generic return to care dr form. On my form I would list my concerns and those have to be addressed before I can determine return to care.

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            • Kabob
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 1106

              #7
              Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
              I would totally send mom and child to the dr with one of my forms and then I would determine from that point if the child was well enough for daycare.

              There is NO REASON this child should still be in that much pain after that type of surgery that requires around the clock meds of any type to control. That being said, something may not be healing right. Hence, I'd exclude until my dr form is filled out. And let me clarify. MY. DR. FORM. not moms and not a generic return to care dr form. On my form I would list my concerns and those have to be addressed before I can determine return to care.
              Great idea except she works for her son's dr. When he was running a fever and had a terribly goopy eye, I required a dr note and the note said word for word what dcm claimed it was and that he could continue care. When I commented on it and that he still needed to go home, she got mad because she said she had a note. I wouldn't put it past her to have the dr fill it out to her satisfaction.

              On a side note...can I see this form?

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              • Unregistered

                #8
                Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                I would totally send mom and child to the dr with one of my forms and then I would determine from that point if the child was well enough for daycare.

                There is NO REASON this child should still be in that much pain after that type of surgery that requires around the clock meds of any type to control. That being said, something may not be healing right. Hence, I'd exclude until my dr form is filled out. And let me clarify. MY. DR. FORM. not moms and not a generic return to care dr form. On my form I would list my concerns and those have to be addressed before I can determine return to care.

                Agree!!! My kids have had 5 pairs of tubes between the 2 of them. Both were happy and normal within the first few hours. It sounds like something might be wrong with the tonsil part. My sister had a complication with hers sounds exactly like what your daycare kid is going through. My sister needed IV antibiotics. Since my father is a doctor she was able to get it at home. But I think your kiddo needs to be seen and have them fill out one of your doctor forms.

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                • craftymissbeth
                  Legally Unlicensed
                  • May 2012
                  • 2385

                  #9
                  Maybe I'm just ignorant about the way fever/pain reducers work, but if he's been receiving a continuous dose of ibuprofen and still has a low grade fever then wouldn't that suggest that if he weren't on it he'd have an actual fever? Hope that makes sense I would just be worried that the ibuprofen is concealing something serious.

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                  • blessed mom
                    New & Loves it here
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 243

                    #10
                    I would be concerned that there is an infection after a week of fever. If the child can't participate after 72 hours of constant medication something is up and I'd have her have the child checked again and require a note before returning. If the doctor just writes whatever mom wants well...you'll never know but at least you are covering your butt. Something is not right here.

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                    • Kabob
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1106

                      #11
                      Originally posted by craftymissbeth
                      Maybe I'm just ignorant about the way fever/pain reducers work, but if he's been receiving a continuous dose of ibuprofen and still has a low grade fever then wouldn't that suggest that if he weren't on it he'd have an actual fever? Hope that makes sense I would just be worried that the ibuprofen is concealing something serious.
                      Yes this is exactly what I told dcm. I had her come pick him up. I can sympathize about missing work...but I need to do what is best for dcb. I worry she might term since she was miffed I wouldn't let him stay again but it will a lesson learned...

                      Oh and she wasn't at work anyway so surprise...it worked out...

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kabob

                        Also...how can I avoid her springing stuff on me in the middle of drop offs? Just say no to all last minute requests? I'm tempted to send out a message that all requests not made a minimum of 24 hours in advance will not be honored. I know with experience I'll be able to rebuff her attempts to slip stuff by easier but lately she claims she forgot to tell me until the last minute...and it is frustrating that my inexperience with this is showing...
                        If she springs a last minute request on you, say "Dcm, I am so busy right now taking care of all these kids that I can't accommodate last minute request from you and I kind of feel like you put me on the spot when you ask. From now on, ALL requests need to be in writing and made atleast 12-24 hours in advance. If you forget to ask, then the answer is no."


                        Then send the note home stating exactly that. It's rude for parents to assume you can pick up the slack when you are caring for more than just their child.

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                        • CedarCreek
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1600

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kabob
                          Yes this is exactly what I told dcm. I had her come pick him up. I can sympathize about missing work...but I need to do what is best for dcb. I worry she might term since she was miffed I wouldn't let him stay again but it will a lesson learned...

                          Oh and she wasn't at work anyway so surprise...it worked out...
                          She wasn't even at work??!!

                          I'm seriously pissed at this Mom! I feel for you!

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                          • Kabob
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1106

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            If she springs a last minute request on you, say "Dcm, I am so busy right now taking care of all these kids that I can't accommodate last minute request from you and I kind of feel like you put me on the spot when you ask. From now on, ALL requests need to be in writing and made atleast 12-24 hours in advance. If you forget to ask, then the answer is no."


                            Then send the note home stating exactly that. It's rude for parents to assume you can pick up the slack when you are caring for more than just their child.
                            Ok thank you. I was thinking that but wording wasn't coming to me. I'll send out a reminder of this with my monthly newsletter.I just said to dh that I need to put my foot down since I am their daycare provider...not their parent and it's making me crabby...his response was to run out and buy me brownies...

                            But returning to the topic...I told her he couldn't return for 48 hrs and needed a dr note as well...so...we'll see.

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                            • Kabob
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1106

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CedarCreek
                              She wasn't even at work??!!

                              I'm seriously pissed at this Mom! I feel for you!
                              Yeah well sadly this isn't the first time she failed to mention it...she kept her older kids home from school due to all of them being miserably sick with a bad cold and tried hide it and told me that her two younger kids had allergies. Dcg ruined it for her by announcing her siblings were home sick with mommy and so I said something to dcm who shrugged it off...never mind the fact that her younger kids are around a baby and 1-2 year olds all day.

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