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  • cheerfuldom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7413

    #16
    Originally posted by blandino
    I definitely think you are right. A lot of AP parents aren't going to look to put their child in daycare, as you know as much as I do, that practicing AP should mean your are attached - which is hard to do working full-time. And parents who do work full-time probably don't have the time/energy/etc to practice such intensive parenting methods while they are home.

    And honestly, the way I run my daycare isn't necessarily how I would do things, if I were a SAHM with my own child. Now, that is easier for me because I don't have my own children in the daycare. I would be much more RIE/montessori.. limited toys - no equipment - delayed introduction of solids/baby led feeding - but in my area that wouldn't build a clientele. So we are a traditional/somewhat montessori preschool, with infant equipment, and solids starting at 6 months.


    I know that there are certain red flags that let me know that our philosophies are too different. And that seems like what happened with you today.

    I do have to say, and I mean this kindly. You do come off as on a high-horse when talking about the no sippy cups/ cosleeping/ not a drop of formula. I really don't believe that is your intention, but that is how it is coming across.
    agree on the bolded.

    i think you may change a lot as you add to your own family. if I remember right, you have one child right OP?

    My first child was full potty trained day and night by 26 months. She had a small potty in her room and would get up at night to go and would wipe herself and go back to bed on her own.

    my second struggled so much. same parenting styles (and yes, I "AP" although I don't like labels....) she STILL has occasional accidents at 4.5 years old! She was in trainers or padded underwear options till close to 4.

    my third is rounding the corner to 2.5. we have tried some introductions to potty training and she is very resistant but she is also physically delayed. she didnt start walking until 18 months and didnt start running till over 2 years old. getting on and off the potty is very challenging and scary for her. it will be a miracle if she is potty trained before 3 years old.

    EVERY kid is different. It has nothing to do with what parenting techniques you use. Yes there are some that seem to make more sense than others but there is no perfect way to parent. no techniques that reach every child. no standards that every kid is going to reach.

    I really think that you are being too hard on other parents, or at least that is the way your post is coming across. I am a huge supporter of co sleeping, breast feeding, baby wearing, cloth diapering, natural birth, etc, but the reason why I dont use the AP label is because the label has a bad connotation. people think of superior moms that judge working moms, formula feeding moms, parents that choose to crib sleep, etc. the term excludes others as if there is only one way to be an attached, responsive, bonded parent.

    AP type parents do look for childcare. They want providers that are long term and able to bond with their child and provide as close to as possible what they are getting at home. I work for parents like this. No I cannot breastfeed their child but I can bond with them. I can't co sleep but I can make sure their sleeping environment is peaceful. I do wear infants, offering cloth diapering services and I would EC a daycare kid too although no one has ever asked.

    I am with Daycare on this one....too much judgment coming from your posts. I hope that is just me reading the tone on the messages incorrectly and not really how you are intending to come across. I think with time you will see that there are many effective ways to nurturing and connecting with kids outside of strict AP standards. AP standards are wonderful parenting tools but by far, not the only tools in the toolbox. just something to think about. I think you should give parents and kids a chance to prove your impression wrong. It was just a hair cut (which will probably be cut soon or you can put it in a pony at daycare) , just a sippy or bottle (which you dont have to use at daycare) and an un potty trained 2 year old (super common). Seems like all things that can be overcome easily and if you gain a family that pays their bills, treats you respectfully and a child that can be a great addition to your group, that sounds pretty good to me.

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    • EchoMom
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2012
      • 729

      #17
      Thanks.
      Last edited by EchoMom; 10-30-2013, 06:50 AM. Reason: Just Done.

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      • Laurel
        Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 3218

        #18
        The world is filled with wonderful, smart and caring people who were bottle fed, wore disposable diapers, were fed solids as early as 8 weeks old, weren't potty trained until they were 3, used any equipment that made their parents' lives easier like swings and playpens (yes, they called them pens). Oh and didn't read until first grade.

        Wait, I think those were my 3 now grown children....

        I just can't get over sometimes how each generation thinks they have the edge on the best parenting techniques yet everyone turns out just fine. Who really cares when a child potty trains as long as it isn't 10 years old?

        Laurel

        P.S. Whew, that felt good to get that out. I've been wanting to say that for a long time.

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        • se7en
          Daycare.com Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 59

          #19
          Can I ask, what is wrong with sippy cups ?

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          • JoseyJo
            Group DCP in Kansas
            • Apr 2013
            • 964

            #20
            We are all such different people, and providers! It is a good thing there are parents out there who need/want what we each have to offer. Sometimes when I hear different provider philosophies I am like but I am sure that some of you think that of how I run mine too!!!

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            • Josiegirl
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 10834

              #21
              And may I ask...exactly what do you do with a 5 week old on the potty? They can hardly hold their head up. Just curious?

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              • EchoMom
                Daycare.com Member
                • May 2012
                • 729

                #22
                Good question. Look up elimination communication on YouTube and you'll be quite surprised! And yes, there is a certain way to safely hold tiny babies over a potty. It get much easier when the baby is old enough to sit unaided. My DS was able to sit on the toilet ring himself when he was six months old, then I didn't have to hold him, just make sure he didn't fall.

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                • Leanna
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 502

                  #23
                  On a personal note, I wouldn't leave my child with a provider who had such contempt for parents who use child care. This whole thread made me sad.

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                  • Play Care
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 6642

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Laurel
                    The world is filled with wonderful, smart and caring people who were bottle fed, wore disposable diapers, were fed solids as early as 8 weeks old, weren't potty trained until they were 3, used any equipment that made their parents' lives easier like swings and playpens (yes, they called them pens). Oh and didn't read until first grade.

                    Wait, I think those were my 3 now grown children....

                    I just can't get over sometimes how each generation thinks they have the edge on the best parenting techniques yet everyone turns out just fine. Who really cares when a child potty trains as long as it isn't 10 years old?

                    Laurel

                    P.S. Whew, that felt good to get that out. I've been wanting to say that for a long time.

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #25
                      Originally posted by blandino
                      I will also say, that it is a personal pet peeve, when parents keep holding off on that first hair cut for so long and their children have that wispy baby hair that is long and scraggily. Just a personal pet peeve that I can't seem to understand the reasoning behind. Aside from religious reasons of course.
                      Because cutting my two years olds curls off meant the end of an "age" or time as a mother that I personally wasn't ready to let go off.

                      Because his long, fine, wispy baby hair meant my baby was not a baby anymore and because I knew that I wasn't going to have another one so I needed him to stay little just a little longer.....

                      I had already missed out on so many moments (I was a working outside the home then) that I couldn't bear to let that part of his babyhood go. I just couldn't.

                      Instead, I reveled in his baby-ness a little longer, inhaled his baby-scent deeply as his wild and crazy wisps (that were becoming scraggily and unmanageable) brushed across my face while snuggling with him ....just a little longer....

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                      • Cradle2crayons
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 3642

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31
                        Because cutting my two years olds curls off meant the end of an "age" or time as a mother that I personally wasn't ready to let go off.

                        Because his long, fine, wispy baby hair meant my baby was not a baby anymore and because I knew that I wasn't going to have another one so I needed him to stay little just a little longer.....

                        I had already missed out on so many moments (I was a working outside the home then) that I couldn't bear to let that part of his babyhood go. I just couldn't.

                        Instead, I reveled in his baby-ness a little longer, inhaled his baby-scent deeply as his wild and crazy wisps (that were becoming scraggily and unmanageable) brushed across my face while snuggling with him ....just a little longer....
                        I so totally get exactly what you mean. I had a full time girl who is now drop in due to parents relocating farther away. She's almost two. Her hair is so bad she literally can't even see to walk. It's over her ears, her eyes, etc. I finally started pulling it back with a pony tail. She's a first and only baby and I do get it. They don't baby her but mom said she just couldn't bring herself to do the first cut yet. And I know where she's coming from. So my only peeve related to this is that the walking child really needs to be able to see . But other than that I could care less how long their hair gets. Lol

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                        • Unregistered

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          Because cutting my two years olds curls off meant the end of an "age" or time as a mother that I personally wasn't ready to let go off.

                          Because his long, fine, wispy baby hair meant my baby was not a baby anymore and because I knew that I wasn't going to have another one so I needed him to stay little just a little longer.....

                          I had already missed out on so many moments (I was a working outside the home then) that I couldn't bear to let that part of his babyhood go. I just couldn't.

                          Instead, I reveled in his baby-ness a little longer, inhaled his baby-scent deeply as his wild and crazy wisps (that were becoming scraggily and unmanageable) brushed across my face while snuggling with him ....just a little longer....

                          Agree!!!!

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                          • MyAngels
                            Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 4217

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Laurel
                            The world is filled with wonderful, smart and caring people who were bottle fed, wore disposable diapers, were fed solids as early as 8 weeks old, weren't potty trained until they were 3, used any equipment that made their parents' lives easier like swings and playpens (yes, they called them pens). Oh and didn't read until first grade.

                            Wait, I think those were my 3 now grown children....

                            I just can't get over sometimes how each generation thinks they have the edge on the best parenting techniques yet everyone turns out just fine. Who really cares when a child potty trains as long as it isn't 10 years old?

                            Laurel

                            P.S. Whew, that felt good to get that out. I've been wanting to say that for a long time.


                            My 3 too, FTR

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                            • crazydaycarelady
                              Not really crazy
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1457

                              #29
                              I haven't had time to read all of the responses but I just wanted to say: I once knew the second I opened the door that I would not be able to work with this woman standing on my porch. First impressions DO make a difference and I could tell by looking that she was uptight. I continued with the interview and of course we did not hit it off. I sometimes wish I had just said good-bye to her at the door! LOL

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                              • Heidi
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 7121

                                #30
                                I just wanted to say that the reason I changed my answer to "never mind" was because I started typing a long (and kind) response, but then got interrupted and since I couldn't finish it, I changed it to never mind.

                                I didn't think you were being judgy. Well, any more than I am at times. I roll my eyes when I see 3 year old carrying bottles, or 5 year olds dragging blankets. Is it wrong? well...I don't know. It wouldn't be a good fit for my program, that's for sure, though.

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