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  • TwinKristi
    Family Childcare Provider
    • Aug 2013
    • 2390

    #31
    Originally posted by daycare
    I am confused on the first paragraph..it would then be illegal for your daughter to care for more than one family and she would be fined like $500 a day for running an illegal daycare in my state. Worst case scenario they could say you were off site and not supervising the children which is a big deal here.

    In CA, you can have an asst. run your business for you when you are absent. You can only be absent 20% of the time when doing this. Your asst. must have completed a full back ground, TB, First Aid/CPR and be 18 yrs of age or older....
    Oh I know how to do it in a legit manner. From my understanding her daughter doesn't meet these criteria or she wouldn't have had the parents sign a paper for her daughter's babysitting services. It could have been a legit situation, but if not, the parents could potentially cause problems with that arrangement. She said she never used a sub in past so I don't think the daughter is cleared to watch the children alone under her license or she wouldn't have "closed" during that time. KWIM?

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    • BrooklynM
      Provider
      • Sep 2013
      • 518

      #32
      Originally posted by daycare
      I am confused on the first paragraph..it would then be illegal for your daughter to care for more than one family and she would be fined like $500 a day for running an illegal daycare in my state. Worst case scenario they could say you were off site and not supervising the children which is a big deal here.

      In CA, you can have an asst. run your business for you when you are absent. You can only be absent 20% of the time when doing this. Your asst. must have completed a full back ground, TB, First Aid/CPR and be 18 yrs of age or older....
      I think what she meant was because the daughter did not have any of those things. She was not fingerprinted, TB, First Aid/CPR, etc, then that is technically running an illegal daycare.

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      • TwinKristi
        Family Childcare Provider
        • Aug 2013
        • 2390

        #33
        Originally posted by BrooklynM
        I think what she meant was because the daughter did not have any of those things. She was not fingerprinted, TB, First Aid/CPR, etc, then that is technically running an illegal daycare.
        Yes exactly. Why "close" and have parents "sign up" for her daughter's babysitting services if her daughter was cleared to be a sub?

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        • daycare
          Advanced Daycare.com *********
          • Feb 2011
          • 16259

          #34
          got it.....sorry I am easily confused. I see what you are saying. In that case, yes you are right. She would have gotten into trouble for not having her sub meet the care taker requirements.

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          • TwinKristi
            Family Childcare Provider
            • Aug 2013
            • 2390

            #35
            This is all hypothetical of course, but just a risk she runs if she terms over this. If all your t's are crossed and i's are dotted it's not a worry, but when you start walking that fine line you run the risk.

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            • daycare
              Advanced Daycare.com *********
              • Feb 2011
              • 16259

              #36
              Originally posted by TwinKristi
              This is all hypothetical of course, but just a risk she runs if she terms over this. If all your t's are crossed and i's are dotted it's not a worry, but when you start walking that fine line you run the risk.
              this is a very very good point. IF this is the case that your daughter is not cleared to watch the kids and you let her, I would not be choosing now to kick up a fuss. I also advise maybe getting your daughter cleared....Again I am sorry if she is, just a suggestion if she is not.

              I would just be talking to the parents about it and let them know it can't happen again......

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              • Unregistered

                #37
                update

                Dad picks up a little hectic here as usual but said I need to talk to you. Pulled him aside told him what I thought about what he did. He says mom told him through email I didn't want him to visit with the kids when I wasn't here says he didn't get until he got home sorry. (I don't believe him) I say you didn't seem surprised I wasn't here or even ask where I was. He says well I knew you had an appt. I say oh really because when I reminded mom this morning at drop off she says oh is that today I thought it was next Thurs. I have never discussed this day with dad. Though I don't believe him about not knowing I didn't want him here, if he remembered I wasn't going to be here that means he stopped by knowing my 20 year old daughter was home alone with these kids. I made it clear to him how mad I was he did apologize but said he wanted to see his kids. I told him I had a termination letter I was going to give him but will make my decision after ive had time to think about it and talk to my husband ( who is quite POed that his daughter was put in that position. Also we have always used our garage as an entrance there is a door from garage to laundry room where kids keep coats shoe etc. We very rarely use the front door but you would think if the normal entry was closed you go to the front door ring the bell not to back yard peer through slider. Thank you all for your responses I really needed to know if I had a legitimate reason to be this angry. I will register this weekend a fill up a new page on the venting board!

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                • craftymissbeth
                  Legally Unlicensed
                  • May 2012
                  • 2385

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered
                  Dad picks up a little hectic here as usual but said I need to talk to you. Pulled him aside told him what I thought about what he did. He says mom told him through email I didn't want him to visit with the kids when I wasn't here says he didn't get until he got home sorry. (I don't believe him) I say you didn't seem surprised I wasn't here or even ask where I was. He says well I knew you had an appt. I say oh really because when I reminded mom this morning at drop off she says oh is that today I thought it was next Thurs. I have never discussed this day with dad. Though I don't believe him about not knowing I didn't want him here, if he remembered I wasn't going to be here that means he stopped by knowing my 20 year old daughter was home alone with these kids. I made it clear to him how mad I was he did apologize but said he wanted to see his kids. I told him I had a termination letter I was going to give him but will make my decision after ive had time to think about it and talk to my husband ( who is quite POed that his daughter was put in that position. Also we have always used our garage as an entrance there is a door from garage to laundry room where kids keep coats shoe etc. We very rarely use the front door but you would think if the normal entry was closed you go to the front door ring the bell not to back yard peer through slider. Thank you all for your responses I really needed to know if I had a legitimate reason to be this angry. I will register this weekend a fill up a new page on the venting board!

                  I don't really understand this... Did you, your daughter, your husband truly believe that she would be caring for all of your daycare children and there would be no possibility of face to face contact with a parent? If everyone felt so uncomfortable about her coming into contact with a daycare dad then she should have NEVER been put into the situation in the first place.

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                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #39
                    lets say what if a parent had a legit emergency and had to pick up their kid? Your daughter would had to deal with the parents....

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                    • butterfly
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1627

                      #40
                      Originally posted by daycare
                      lets say what if a parent had a legit emergency and had to pick up their kid? Your daughter would had to deal with the parents....
                      I could be wrong, but I believe the bigger issue was that the parent lingered for 25 minutes and came after was told not to. It wasn't just a pickup - it was a visit during daycare hours and then leaving without their kids.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #41
                        We wouldnt have been uncomfortable with her coming into contact with any of the parents if they had a reason to be here. I let them know yes he can come here at that time if he was picking up but not to hang out for 25 minutes to visit. I was gone from 10:30 - 12 so there was really no reason to expect anyone to come here at that time. If there was an emergency of any kind and someone did have to pick up I would have absolutely no problem with that. I really feel like their thinking was my kids are there and if I want to stop by I will.

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                        • daycare
                          Advanced Daycare.com *********
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 16259

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          We wouldnt have been uncomfortable with her coming into contact with any of the parents if they had a reason to be here. I let them know yes he can come here at that time if he was picking up but not to hang out for 25 minutes to visit. I was gone from 10:30 - 12 so there was really no reason to expect anyone to come here at that time. If there was an emergency of any kind and someone did have to pick up I would have absolutely no problem with that. I really feel like their thinking was my kids are there and if I want to stop by I will.
                          Got it...... yes you have every right to be upset with this family and I do see where it looks like dad was full of you know what that he did not know...

                          Ultimately, you are the one who has to deal with this family, I think that you should do what you feel is best...

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                          • Heidi
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 7121

                            #43
                            I think you do have a right to be upset; mostly because you communicated clearly your expectations, and they were ignored. This shows a lack of respect.

                            Now, to be honest, I think your expectations were maybe not entirely fair. I get the "you come, you take the kids" policy...if the kids were or would be upset. BUT, if you leave someone in charge of your business (and the private babysitting bit wouldn't fly here either), they must be competent to handle ALL situations. Otherwise, this person (and I know she's your fantastic daughter ) should not be left in charge of the daycare.

                            So, you've got to do whatever you think is best. I think you handled it well with dad. You confronted him, but you let him know you were considering your options vs. just kicking them out right now.

                            I think you should consider how best to totally train your daughter (or another sub) to be 100% ready to handle all situations though. That's just my opinion, I don't mean to offend you.

                            Oh, and welcome to the boards! I hope you know that you'll often get not just the opinions you asked for here. There tend to be a lot of "cans of worms". ::

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