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    Heat and Parents

    We are in NYS. We are a small center, privately owned- technically a large group daycare as we are in the addition of my home. This past week it has gotten very cold outside and I sent home notices that children needed to come prepared for the day, including winter gear as NYS mandates outside play time every single day. Most of the parents have been compliant, except for a couple who needed to wait until payday (didn't expect it to get so cold so quickly and hadn't planned ahead) or those who flat out couldn't afford it. For those children we have donated items that we received from an outside agency. No big deal.

    ONE parent refused to bring the items because she claims she ordered "the special hat from TV with the ears" and it hasn't arrived yet so she isn't buying a second hat in the meantime. I explained that since we have to go outside the child would either need to be picked up at that time or not come at all because the assistant and I both need to be outside to stay in ratio. Miraculously, kid came in all their winter gear yesterday and today.

    This morning, however, DCP decided to make a HUGE deal about how cold it was inside the daycare. DCP went on and on about how cold it was and that she "pays enough that we should be able to afford heat..." and "if keeping the kids warm was so important, you'd think we'd have it together inside of our facility." Good point.

    Except, it's 72 degrees in here at that time. Well within regs, which really only requires 68 or some similarly low temp. I told DCP that the daycare is an extension of my home and at this time, this early in the year, I don't plan to turn the heat up any higher than 74. At 6:45 AM (the system is automated) it hasn't climbed that high yet because at night we keep it at 67 and we bundle up. Our gas and electric is EXPENSIVE, and I'm heating a 2600 sq. foot home plus the 960 sq. foot addition. It gets costly, and no, daycare is not making enough for it to cover it all. I didn't say all of that, but I was thinking it. DCP ended with, "...and just so you know, I will be calling OCFS on you."

    Grrr.... I'm in compliance and I just recertified this past August so I don't really fear the investigation/audit but the inconvenience and the nerve of some people. DCP actually demanded I turn the heat up to 82 because that's what they have it on at home. Who the heck keeps their heat up that high? Seriously. Sorry, DCP. I don't get heating assistance. I pay it all, and until you decide you want to pay a higher copay (because DSS only pays so much) you better believe I'm going to keep the heat exactly where I can afford to, and where it's comfortable for all.

    For the record, DCK was wearing layers, a sweatshirt over a long sleeved top. About 20 minutes after arriving DCK was begging to take off the sweatshirt. "Too hot, too hot!"
    Last edited by Blackcat31; 10-24-2013, 10:33 AM.
  • Josiegirl
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 10834

    #2
    She sounds like a bit of a spoiled brat control freak parent. But that's JMO.
    She's calling CFS on you? Wow, she does have some nerve. I think I'd feel very uncomfortable working with a family like that and be looking for a replacement real soon.

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    • Familycare71
      Daycare.com Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1716

      #3
      I'm not a termer... But this would have had me thinking on it!!! I wouldn't be playing with threats or calls from a parent- ever! I'm in NYS too- yes... 68 degrees. Which is what it is in my home through the winter. Usually it works up to 70's ...
      I guess you really need to ask yourself if the income from this family is worth that! My answer would be a quick NO!

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      • Angelsj
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1323

        #4
        I don't term often either, but that would do it. Obviously, you are not comfortable with my home, my warmth level, or my care of your child, so you are no longer welcome.
        Anyone who threatened to call on me would be gone the instant it came out of their mouth. If you feel the need to call, I am obviously not the one to be watching your child.

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        • daycarediva
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 11698

          #5
          Originally posted by Angelsj
          I don't term often either, but that would do it. Obviously, you are not comfortable with my home, my warmth level, or my care of your child, so you are no longer welcome.
          Anyone who threatened to call on me would be gone the instant it came out of their mouth. If you feel the need to call, I am obviously not the one to be watching your child.
          and the fact that she was so 'concerned' yet left her child there says it all.

          Ny as well. My heating bill is outrageous, 68* is the reg, thermostat is set to 69* (just in case it falls below 68* as it takes a few for it to click on/warm it up again in here).

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          • AcornMama
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 283

            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            DCP ended with, "...and just so you know, I will be calling OCFS on you."

            ...

            For the record, DCK was wearing layers, a sweatshirt over a long sleeved top. About 20 minutes after arriving DCK was begging to take off the sweatshirt. "Too hot, too hot!"
            Calling OCFS but still leaving her child with you? Nice.

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            • NeedaVaca
              Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 2276

              #7
              Originally posted by Angelsj
              I don't term often either, but that would do it. Obviously, you are not comfortable with my home, my warmth level, or my care of your child, so you are no longer welcome.
              Anyone who threatened to call on me would be gone the instant it came out of their mouth. If you feel the need to call, I am obviously not the one to be watching your child.

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              • My3cents
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 3387

                #8
                Originally posted by Familycare71
                I'm not a termer... But this would have had me thinking on it!!! I wouldn't be playing with threats or calls from a parent- ever! I'm in NYS too- yes... 68 degrees. Which is what it is in my home through the winter. Usually it works up to 70's ...
                I guess you really need to ask yourself if the income from this family is worth that! My answer would be a quick NO!
                bingo- I agree with this and I could have wrote your post about the heating. It takes a while for the heat to kick in, mine is on a timer also and it does warm up through the day when the sun comes out. You home, your rules.

                I would not let a parent threaten me. I would have called her bluff and said go ahead and call and let them know this is your last day with me. This is my home, I am well within my regulations and I am not going to be threatened by you every time you don't like the way I run my business. Find other daycare and consider this your two weeks notice.

                Sorry but many people think they are owed everything when they live off the state and don't have to pay for it out of pocket themselves- MANY- not all.

                If I kept my heat at 83 I would be way too hot-

                UGH Call it in before she does and explain what happened or be ready. I am not a termer but this client would be termed, too much liability for me.

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                • BrooklynM
                  Provider
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 518

                  #9
                  My body tends to run on the cool side. I have Reynauds disease so I feel like I keep a pretty warm house, in the mornings, I turn the thermostat to 68 because we have been getting to about 80 degrees outside most days so I know it will heat up quickly and then it gets too hot. Once it is like 75 in my home, I feel tired and lethargic. 82 is ridiculous! I would have your assistant (If she is tactful) say something like, oh, OP told me today that you mentioned turning the heat up to 82 today. We got into a silly argument and now we have a bet that you meant 72!

                  It's just so ridiculous that I think maybe she mispoke. If she says no, 82,then figure out how you can term her cause she is crazy!

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                  • crazydaycarelady
                    Not really crazy
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1457

                    #10
                    I am not a termer either but I think I would on this one. I would simply tell dcm that with her making allegations to OCFS you just don't feel comfortable having her child in care any longer and opening yourself up to further (false) allegations.

                    Buh-Bye!

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                    • craftymissbeth
                      Legally Unlicensed
                      • May 2012
                      • 2385

                      #11
                      I agree with other posters. I would term since I would no longer feel comfortable with a client who throws around threats of reporting.

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                      • melilley
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 5155

                        #12
                        Wow, I too can't believe that she threatened to call on you, but still left her child with you! She has some nerve! I'm always cold, but my heat is never above 73 and if a parent had a problem with that, pooey on them!
                        I'm not a termer either, but that would have done it! I hope the dcp feels like an a** now..

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                        • countrymom
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 4874

                          #13
                          so let me get this straight--------she's complaining that your house is cold but is still leaving her child with you. That makes no sense.

                          oh, you better have a paper trail, so make sure you take pics or write down everything that was.

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                          • Lavender
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 195

                            #14
                            Crazy! When I open the center in the morning the temp is at 65. I turn on the heat and it goes to 68. We probably won't often go warmer than that. It feels fine to me, and I just moved from southern California 14 months ago. My house is at 67 right now. She needs to send her child in layers if she thinks that is too cold.

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                            • Heidi
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 7121

                              #15
                              wow...my heat is set at 67 (our minimum) over night, and I usually bump it up to 68 or 69 during the day. That's it!

                              My babies are all barefoot, too! I'm not, because I'm old now... ::

                              I'm just imagining what my DH would say if he came home and the house was set at 82 or even 72. He'd know the minute he walked in the door, I'm sure! He'd complain 'til the come home.

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