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[Play Care]

That is exactly what I said in the email. If they can quote it, then fine. I still can't find the reg! This is what I found on page 133-134

Quote:
417.15(c) The provider must maintain on file at the family day care home, available for inspection by the office or it's designees at any time, the following records in a current and accurate manner:

it goes on to list the paperwork. Honestly, the information IS current and IS accurate. The DATE is not current. ARGH!

I just got a call from OCFS, so they are going to ask the other registrars and see what they do. I said, it didn't matter to me what they do, it matters to me what the regs SAY. I am NOT taking all of these violations without a fight because of the unspecific regulation!

This bothers me! Every few months I put a blurb in my newsletter reminding parents to let me know if they have any changes to personal information (phone numbers, etc.) so I can keep my files updated. So I am making the effort to make sure files are updated. Now I have to have parents in the course of their coming and going initial and date each piece of paper? Cause they are not taking it home!

[daycarediva]

This bothers me! Every few months I put a blurb in my newsletter reminding parents to let me know if they have any changes to personal information (phone numbers, etc.) so I can keep my files updated. So I am making the effort to make sure files are updated. Now I have to have parents in the course of their coming and going initial and date each piece of paper? Cause they are not taking it home!

I had all of the 'deficient' paperwork filled out and ready to be signed and had my daycare parents sign them all right there.

One of my dcds said it best "You're dealing with the state. NOBODY knows what the law is, especially them." ::

I will update everyone as soon as I hear back. She said she was going to try to call me yesterday so hopefully today.

[momofboys]

I had all of the 'deficient' paperwork filled out and ready to be signed and had my daycare parents sign them all right there.

One of my dcds said it best "You're dealing with the state. NOBODY knows what the law is, especially them." ::

I will update everyone as soon as I hear back. She said she was going to try to call me yesterday so hopefully today.

LOL! I hope it works out for you & I agree with you - if it doesn't explicitly say you need a new form every year I don't see how they can cite you when the forms show accurate info!

[Familycare71]

I had all of the 'deficient' paperwork filled out and ready to be signed and had my daycare parents sign them all right there.

One of my dcds said it best "You're dealing with the state. NOBODY knows what the law is, especially them." ::

I will update everyone as soon as I hear back. She said she was going to try to call me yesterday so hopefully today.

::
That is SO TRUE!!!

[Cradle2crayons]

I update anything signed once a year in January. Nothing says I have to. I just do.

My things in current and up to date means information that's still true.

If EVERYTHING ON YOUR FORMS is true and correct, and still applicable, en its current, regardless of date is my thought.

I'd fight it too.

[daycarediva]

Just heard from the 'head registrar'. She agreed that the reg is written in a confusing manner, but suggests that I fill out new paperwork annually, around my registration 'anniversary'.

I did tell her that I had parents fill out all new forms,, and that everything was the same and she said good, no citations THIS TIME. Next time she did say that it's up to the registrar to determine if there will be citations and that I WOULD be cited next time.

So NY providers, update those forms annually, regardless of what the regs say!

[Familycare71]

Just heard from the 'head registrar'. She agreed that the reg is written in a confusing manner, but suggests that I fill out new paperwork annually, around my registration 'anniversary'.

I did tell her that I had parents fill out all new forms,, and that everything was the same and she said good, no citations THIS TIME. Next time she did say that it's up to the registrar to determine if there will be citations and that I WOULD be cited next time.

So NY providers, update those forms annually, regardless of what the regs say!

Ugh!!! Can you ask her to put into writing that to them current means annually?? Heaven forbid the next one think it means every 6 months!
Thanks for the heads up! I will do it annually-

[Play Care]

Just heard from the 'head registrar'. She agreed that the reg is written in a confusing manner, but suggests that I fill out new paperwork annually, around my registration 'anniversary'.

I did tell her that I had parents fill out all new forms,, and that everything was the same and she said good, no citations THIS TIME. Next time she did say that it's up to the registrar to determine if there will be citations and that I WOULD be cited next time.

So NY providers, update those forms annually, regardless of what the regs say!

This needs to be clarified *in writing* IMO. Like Familycare said, one licensor says every year another says every six months, etc. That's BS.

[daycarediva]

This needs to be clarified *in writing* IMO. Like Familycare said, one licensor says every year another says every six months, etc. That's BS.

That is what I said as well. Apparently we are getting updated regs in 2014 and there will be a LOT of clarifications. She is putting it in writing, in a letter to me, but she can't change reg wording. UGH! At least they were willing to drop the citations (3-4 each kid x 9 kids enrolled!)

I agree, not super happy right now, and I miss my old registrar. She was AWESOME.

[Familycare71]

That is what I said as well. Apparently we are getting updated regs in 2014 and there will be a LOT of clarifications. She is putting it in writing, in a letter to me, but she can't change reg wording. UGH! At least they were willing to drop the citations (3-4 each kid x 9 kids enrolled!)

I agree, not super happy right now, and I miss my old registrar. She was AWESOME.

The turn over either works with you or against you! When I love them- I'm sad... When I don't like them (one specifically I was told to report but was scared to because she would still inspect me!) I do a happy dance! Generally I know more than they do!