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  • momma2girls
    Daycare.com Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 2283

    #16
    I once had a Father that woke up @ 3:00 and had to work out, etc. and he couldn't make it here, 10 min. away before 4:30- whatever!!!!

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    • tymaboy
      Daycare.com Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 493

      #17
      Something to keep in mind is your contract is with the address you are at now, not you new address. You moving will actualy break your current contract & that will give them an out of the contract. I remember something similar last yr & I believe it was Tom Copland you said that moving breaks the current contract. You will want to have everyone sign a new contract with the new address.

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      • DanceMom
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 353

        #18
        Unbelievable...all these parents I swear expect us to do everything for THEM..why is that? Why do these parents think we work on their schedules? If these times dont work for you, I would suggest a center that is open later. I try and work with the parents, but when it doesnt make sense ( like this situation ) then I would not bend.

        He likes to have time to himself? Then maybe he shouldnt have had kids !!!

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        • gbcc
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 647

          #19
          Oh, and I should mention that mom works for the state and has for the past 10 plus years and dad works for the county so they make excellent money. Dad just bought a new corvette and they go to Disney 3 times, yes seriously, a year. They have always been cheap. They try to make excuses all the time for why they shouldn't pay due to days off and I don't budge.

          Mom decided they are going to go visit another daycare that is closer to home and open later. She mentioned it was her neighbor. Unbelievable.... This neighbor that does daycare, the dcm has complained about her for the 4 years I have known her. She doesn't watch the kids, she hires teenagers to help out, she takes them for walks at pick up time and doesn't tell the parents where they went so they have to wait, she is over her legal limit etc. Mom mentioned this way they can transition into her brother watching the dcg. Her brother is 9 and and she is 5. It wasn't his choice to add a sibling, y should he babysit. It's a shame when parents compromise the child's life over money. They clearly have enough.

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          • AfterSchoolMom
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 1973

            #20
            Mom mentioned this way they can transition into her brother watching the dcg. Her brother is 9 and and she is 5.
            Wow... that's illegal in my state. Kids aren't legally allowed to babysit here until they're 11. Even so, I think even that's a bit too young. I have a 9 year old myself and I can't imagine them being responsible for another child!!

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            • DCMom
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 871

              #21
              Originally posted by tymaboy
              Something to keep in mind is your contract is with the address you are at now, not you new address. You moving will actualy break your current contract & that will give them an out of the contract. I remember something similar last yr & I believe it was Tom Copland you said that moving breaks the current contract. You will want to have everyone sign a new contract with the new address.
              This is a very good point. I would use it to address the issues you are having with this family. A good time to change your hours, reinforce your late fees, etc. If they choose not to sign the new contract, then I would consider it their two weeks notice.

              Congratulations on your new house

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              • gbcc
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 647

                #22
                That is a good point about the contracts! It never occured to me. I just may make my hours 5pm with the move!

                Also, 8 is the legal age to stay home alone. I believe also it's ok to babysit. Dad works in CPS so I'm sure they would know. I did an internship at DSS and we had a case where the parents were being accused of neglect because they were high and drunk while caring for the children. Well CPS found it not guilty because there was a 9 year old child present in the room to help care for the younger ones. They had to do drug and alcohol counseling and that was it. :confused:

                NYS is so messed up in so many ways. They can't figure out why everyone is relocating. Duh

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                • MarinaVanessa
                  Family Childcare Home
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 7211

                  #23
                  Congrats on your new house!! And great that you stuck to your guns. Sounds like a DCM that I have . If it were me having this conversation it would go something along these lines.

                  (parent asking for a reduction in rates for extra distance & for DC to stay open for extra time):

                  "Okay so I thought about what you said and you have two options. We can keep the rate and pick-up time as is or this is what I figured was fair. The weekly rate now is $155 (using my rates here) It's an extra mile for you each way so two miles per trip so I will reduce the price based on what the national mileage standard is so that's $0.50 per mile which comes to $1 off per trip. You come twice a day so $2 a day so that makes it $10 a week off bringing it down to $145 a week.

                  Then you need me to stay open until 6pm and my regular hours are until 5pm. Now, you stay here until 5:30pm which is 30 minutes later than my regular business hours at no additional charge but since now you need me to stay open until 6pm that's an full hour of overtime which I charge at $5 an hour. So multiply that by 5 days a week, makes $25 a week bringing the total to $170 a week. When would you like to start the new rate? "

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                  • SilverSabre25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 7585

                    #24
                    "Okay so I thought about what you said and you have two options. We can keep the rate and pick-up time as is or this is what I figured was fair. The weekly rate now is $155 (using my rates here) It's an extra mile for you each way so two miles per trip so I will reduce the price based on what the national mileage standard is so that's $0.50 per mile which comes to $1 off per trip. You come twice a day so $2 a day so that makes it $10 a week off bringing it down to $145 a week.

                    Then you need me to stay open until 6pm and my regular hours are until 5pm. Now, you stay here until 5:30pm which is 30 minutes later than my regular business hours at no additional charge but since now you need me to stay open until 6pm that's an full hour of overtime which I charge at $5 an hour. So multiply that by 5 days a week, makes $25 a week bringing the total to $170 a week. When would you like to start the new rate? "
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                    • gbcc
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 647

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
                      Congrats on your new house!! And great that you stuck to your guns. Sounds like a DCM that I have . If it were me having this conversation it would go something along these lines.

                      (parent asking for a reduction in rates for extra distance & for DC to stay open for extra time):

                      "Okay so I thought about what you said and you have two options. We can keep the rate and pick-up time as is or this is what I figured was fair. The weekly rate now is $155 (using my rates here) It's an extra mile for you each way so two miles per trip so I will reduce the price based on what the national mileage standard is so that's $0.50 per mile which comes to $1 off per trip. You come twice a day so $2 a day so that makes it $10 a week off bringing it down to $145 a week.

                      Then you need me to stay open until 6pm and my regular hours are until 5pm. Now, you stay here until 5:30pm which is 30 minutes later than my regular business hours at no additional charge but since now you need me to stay open until 6pm that's an full hour of overtime which I charge at $5 an hour. So multiply that by 5 days a week, makes $25 a week bringing the total to $170 a week. When would you like to start the new rate? "
                      I don't think I could say that with a straight face !

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                      • Unregistered

                        #26
                        Ha the nerve of some parents. Tell her flat out your contracted hours are till 5:30pm and the rate WILL be staying the same and she has a choice to find another daycare to meet her needs but she is REQUIRED to give 2 weeks notice and you expect 2 weeks to be paid in full even if she doesnt wanna take the 2 week notice. Of course I know you really wanna tell her to go to H E double L.

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                        • Lucy
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1654

                          #27
                          Originally posted by tymaboy
                          Something to keep in mind is your contract is with the address you are at now, not you new address. You moving will actualy break your current contract & that will give them an out of the contract. I remember something similar last yr & I believe it was Tom Copland you said that moving breaks the current contract. You will want to have everyone sign a new contract with the new address.
                          Although the parents are being extremely petty and unreasonable (dad should pick up right after work)..... the point you make about moving breaking the contract is a valid one. I hadn't thought about that. I say just keep going as you're going and not mention the fact that your contract is technically broken. Get her to sign a new one using the new address and then breathe a sigh of relief!

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                          • misol
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 716

                            #28
                            Originally posted by gbcc
                            That is a good point about the contracts! It never occured to me. I just may make my hours 5pm with the move!

                            Also, 8 is the legal age to stay home alone. I believe also it's ok to babysit. Dad works in CPS so I'm sure they would know. I did an internship at DSS and we had a case where the parents were being accused of neglect because they were high and drunk while caring for the children. Well CPS found it not guilty because there was a 9 year old child present in the room to help care for the younger ones. They had to do drug and alcohol counseling and that was it. :confused:

                            NYS is so messed up in so many ways. They can't figure out why everyone is relocating. Duh
                            Good call on the contract tymaboy. I would do what you said and give her a new contract with the new address, the new 5:00 pickup time, and your new overtime rate. Dad needs alone time, huh? Well he will just have to get his alone time when the rest of us get ours - after the kids are in bed!

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