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  • KDC
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 562

    Neighbor Shared Nanny Cam Story

    So, my neighbor hired a nanny over choosing me for care, because of hours and convenience which I totally understand. I watched their first born, but they switched to a Nanny. They told me the reasons and we've managed to keep a better relationship because that 'boss/employee' relationship isn't there.

    I was outside with the kiddo's and the Dad and his son (age 21 months) stopped over, the Nanny has summers off - Mom is a teacher. He told me a story about how the boy was starting to fuss when the sitter would arrive & this sparked some concern.

    He said he set up his iphone and skype to watch her while she was taking care of their son (and the Nanny also brought her son, about 12 months old). He was concerned she was caring more for her son than his. Mind you, the Dad works from home -- so he's in the house while she's caring for the children. He was worried he would get 'caught' (meaning she saw the phone) but said he was upset when his son dropped his sippy cup and the Nanny just said "Pick it up, silly!" however, when her son dropped his snack cup, she got down to his level and gave him back his cup and hugged him. This made the Dad mad... It was a snippet of the day (he only had it on a short time - again, afraid of being caught) and I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing as the Nanny, as his child is almost 2 and can most certainly pick up his own cup. I would be hurt of the lack of trust as she's been working for them for over a year!

    I can understand however the parent's want to be a 'fly' on the wall. I often wondered if putting a camera in the play area would be beneficial for my business -- this opened my eyes up for sure. We all have our struggles throughout the day, but most of us have the children's safety and best interests at heart. Differences of opinion over our parenting styles and appearance of favoritism whether it's there or not would start some fireworks.
  • littlemissmuffet
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2194

    #2
    I would never EVER let someone outside of immediate family watch my child (especially before age 5) without recording them.

    I also would have done exactly as the nanny did.

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    • SilverSabre25
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 7585

      #3
      The dad was upset because she said "pick it up, silly!"? Wow. I say that all day long. Snack cups I often pick up to avoid spillage, or sometimes to avoid dropping the sippy cup that was just picked up :: and then she hugged him?! That whole interaction sounds exactly like what I do with all kids, mine and other peoples.

      Heck, my son, who just turned two, will drop something and stand there worrying about it and then when i tell him to just get down and pick it up, he says, "oh!" and happily does it. Silly child.

      Some people really have a lot of spare time, to worry about things like that.
      Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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      • EntropyControlSpecialist
        Embracing the chaos.
        • Mar 2012
        • 7466

        #4
        Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
        I would never EVER let someone outside of immediate family watch my child (especially before age 5) without recording them.

        I also would have done exactly as the nanny did.
        Same here. All of it. Of course she acts like a Mom to her very young child whether other children are around or not/whether she's caring for another child or not. Most women do.

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        • itlw8
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2199

          #5
          I would expect a 21 month to pick up the cup if he could but I would not expect it from a 12 month. I am not sure what he thought he saw. Did he expect her to treat his child like and infant or did her want her to treat her child like he was almost a preschooler?
          It:: will wait

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          • countrymom
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 4874

            #6
            the way I look at it, is that if you need to install a nanny cam then you don't trust your caregiver and you should stay home. The problem like the dad said is that he only caught a bit of it.

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            • daycare
              Advanced Daycare.com *********
              • Feb 2011
              • 16259

              #7


              agree..............


              and I would have done the same thing as the Nanny...

              BTW of course she will treat her child differently, it's her child.....

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #8
                Originally posted by KDC
                So, my neighbor hired a nanny over choosing me for care, because of hours and convenience which I totally understand. I watched their first born, but they switched to a Nanny. They told me the reasons and we've managed to keep a better relationship because that 'boss/employee' relationship isn't there.

                I was outside with the kiddo's and the Dad and his son (age 21 months) stopped over, the Nanny has summers off - Mom is a teacher. He told me a story about how the boy was starting to fuss when the sitter would arrive & this sparked some concern.

                He said he set up his iphone and skype to watch her while she was taking care of their son (and the Nanny also brought her son, about 12 months old). He was concerned she was caring more for her son than his. Mind you, the Dad works from home -- so he's in the house while she's caring for the children. He was worried he would get 'caught' (meaning she saw the phone) but said he was upset when his son dropped his sippy cup and the Nanny just said "Pick it up, silly!" however, when her son dropped his snack cup, she got down to his level and gave him back his cup and hugged him. This made the Dad mad... It was a snippet of the day (he only had it on a short time - again, afraid of being caught) and I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing as the Nanny, as his child is almost 2 and can most certainly pick up his own cup. I would be hurt of the lack of trust as she's been working for them for over a year!

                I can understand however the parent's want to be a 'fly' on the wall. I often wondered if putting a camera in the play area would be beneficial for my business -- this opened my eyes up for sure. We all have our struggles throughout the day, but most of us have the children's safety and best interests at heart. Differences of opinion over our parenting styles and appearance of favoritism whether it's there or not would start some fireworks.
                Sounds to me like your neighbors need to either stay home and raise their own child or they need to trust their caregiver WITHOUT feeling the need to be sneaky and underhanded about it.

                The reasons why DCD is upset is just silly Does he really think his child is going to be treated with kid gloves his entire life?

                Parents need to stop being so worried about protecting their kids from natural consequences as well as ones they initiate themselves and start spending more time preparing them for the real world! :confused:

                Oh, and if I were that Nanny....I'd have quit on the spot. I think what DCD did (taping nanny) was fine but HOW (secretly) he did it was just wrong and if he had so much distrust in her, he should never have hired her.

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                • MyAngels
                  Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 4217

                  #9
                  I think the dad is overreacting, but I would absolutely install a nanny cam and would never apologize for it. I wouldn't tell the nanny, either, unless I was legally required to do so. I don't think it's sneaky or underhanded, either. Yes, you'd like to think that your instincts are spot on when it comes to your choice of caregivers, but it's a sad fact that that's not always the case.

                  As a matter of fact, if I ever get to the point where I have to hire a caregiver for my mother, I'll be doing the same thing.

                  An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MyAngels
                    I think the dad is overreacting, but I would absolutely install a nanny cam and would never apologize for it. I wouldn't tell the nanny, either, unless I was legally required to do so. I don't think it's sneaky or underhanded, either. Yes, you'd like to think that your instincts are spot on when it comes to your choice of caregivers, but it's a sad fact that that's not always the case.

                    As a matter of fact, if I ever get to the point where I have to hire a caregiver for my mother, I'll be doing the same thing.

                    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
                    I personally don't think it would be a very nice thing to hide cameras to record someone for any reason, unless it was for some kind of law enforcement type of thing.

                    I probably would install cameras, but I would tell the person that they are there.....

                    how would you feel if you thought you were in a room alone and you adjusted your bra, but then find out you were being video taped. I would feel so violated..

                    BTW I do that all the time in my hallway where my DCKs cant see me but I can hear them

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MyAngels
                      I think the dad is overreacting, but I would absolutely install a nanny cam and would never apologize for it. I wouldn't tell the nanny, either, unless I was legally required to do so. I don't think it's sneaky or underhanded, either. Yes, you'd like to think that your instincts are spot on when it comes to your choice of caregivers, but it's a sad fact that that's not always the case.

                      As a matter of fact, if I ever get to the point where I have to hire a caregiver for my mother, I'll be doing the same thing.

                      An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
                      I see where you are coming from but as a parent, don't you think you should trust your caregiver?

                      If you can't (which is understandable) then you really only have one choice....don't leave your child with someone other than you or your immediate family.

                      I don't think it is fair or right to justify one's fears or mistrust of others by using a secret video camera to record their actions.

                      I am pretty sure everyone of us here (as providers) would flip out or be livid if our DCK's all came with secret recording devices in their diaper bags and backpacks...kwim?

                      That trust has to go both ways.

                      We can't be mad if DCP's want to do it if we ourselves would do it too.

                      fwiw~ this isn't directed solely at you....you were just the last one to reply

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                      • Heidi
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 7121

                        #12
                        I think a nanny cam is fine, as long as the nanny is informed.

                        Having someone filming you without your knowledge is NOT ok at all. We all do personal things that would be highly embarrassing if someone else saw. Picking places, passing gas, adjusting wardrobe malfunctions.

                        If I were in a position to hire a nanny, I would probably have cameras, but that person would know from day one that they are there. I wouldn't say "oh...they are over here" and show them WHERE they are, or how many there are. Just that they exist.

                        That enough would deter most people from being dishonest or out of control.

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                        • AmyKidsCo
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 3786

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Heidi
                          I think a nanny cam is fine, as long as the nanny is informed.

                          Having someone filming you without your knowledge is NOT ok at all. We all do personal things that would be highly embarrassing if someone else saw. Picking places, passing gas, adjusting wardrobe malfunctions.

                          If I were in a position to hire a nanny, I would probably have cameras, but that person would know from day one that they are there. I wouldn't say "oh...they are over here" and show them WHERE they are, or how many there are. Just that they exist.

                          That enough would deter most people from being dishonest or out of control.
                          Good point!

                          On the other side of things, when I'm having a bad day or am in a bad mood I ask myself "if there was a camera in that diaper bag, what would I want parents to see?" and that helps me get past myself and think about the child. We all have days like that...

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                          • countrymom
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 4874

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Heidi
                            I think a nanny cam is fine, as long as the nanny is informed.

                            Having someone filming you without your knowledge is NOT ok at all. We all do personal things that would be highly embarrassing if someone else saw. Picking places, passing gas, adjusting wardrobe malfunctions.

                            If I were in a position to hire a nanny, I would probably have cameras, but that person would know from day one that they are there. I wouldn't say "oh...they are over here" and show them WHERE they are, or how many there are. Just that they exist.

                            That enough would deter most people from being dishonest or out of control.
                            acually today as I'm vacumming the house, the cord gets stuck and I pull it and as I pull it, my skirt goes up too, showing off my grannies. Can you imagine another parent seeing this. The kids just laugh, but I would be embarressed if it was a parent, or the day my shirt was on back wards.

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                            • daycare
                              Advanced Daycare.com *********
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 16259

                              #15
                              Originally posted by countrymom
                              acually today as I'm vacumming the house, the cord gets stuck and I pull it and as I pull it, my skirt goes up too, showing off my grannies. Can you imagine another parent seeing this. The kids just laugh, but I would be embarressed if it was a parent, or the day my shirt was on back wards.
                              .....sorry I had to giggle...

                              but like I said too, I would feel violated if someone recorded me with out me knowing.....

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