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  • MN Mom
    Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 399

    Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD...

    In light of a few recent threads on behavior problems, I thought I'd share an interesting article I read yesterday!

    Is ADHD a biological-neurological disorder? Surprisingly, the answer to this question depends on where you live.


    Have a great weekend everybody!!! happyface
  • mom2many
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 1278

    #2
    Originally posted by MN Mom
    In light of a few recent threads on behavior problems, I thought I'd share an interesting article I read yesterday!

    Is ADHD a biological-neurological disorder? Surprisingly, the answer to this question depends on where you live.


    Have a great weekend everybody!!! happyface
    Thanks for posting! Interesting article indeed! Enjoy your weekend!

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    • itlw8
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 2199

      #3
      interesting but I do not believe it... ds learned to self soothe at an early age. I really think the increased amount has to do with chemicals in our food and environment. the type of wheat we have compared with theirs ours is a higher gluten grain that makes fluffy bread.

      And even look at the preschools there more hands on up and move. I doubt they ever do worksheets with preschoolers or kindergarteners.
      It:: will wait

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      • Cradle2crayons
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        • Apr 2013
        • 3642

        #4
        Originally posted by itlw8
        interesting but I do not believe it... ds learned to self soothe at an early age. I really think the increased amount has to do with chemicals in our food and environment. the type of wheat we have compared with theirs ours is a higher gluten grain that makes fluffy bread.

        And even look at the preschools there more hands on up and move. I doubt they ever do worksheets with preschoolers or kindergarteners.
        Don't forget vaccines are different there too

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        • preschoolteacher
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          • Apr 2013
          • 935

          #5
          I agree that the environment and parenting styles should be looked at first before a child is medicated, but it's important not to forget that even parents with excellent parenting skills sometimes have kids who have ADHD, and it can't always be "blame the parent." In the past, people used to blame mothers for being cruel and distant and said that it caused autism. That's such a painful thing to feel, and parents with kids with special needs already have some guilt on them (even though they shouldn't).

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          • itlw8
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            • Jan 2012
            • 2199

            #6
            since it is known ADHD is genetic how many French families in the US have children with ADHD it could be they do not carry the gene anyway
            It:: will wait

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            • itlw8
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              • Jan 2012
              • 2199

              #7
              The thing is if there are parenting skills and environment problems the meds won't fis the problem. The meds are a stimulant and ONLY calm and help people concentrate that have ADHD for other people it works as a stimulant .

              give a normal child caffeine it hypes them up give a child with ADHD caffeine and it will actually calm them down.
              It:: will wait

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              • Cradle2crayons
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                • Apr 2013
                • 3642

                #8
                Originally posted by itlw8
                The thing is if there are parenting skills and environment problems the meds won't fis the problem. The meds are a stimulant and ONLY calm and help people concentrate that have ADHD for other people it works as a stimulant .

                give a normal child caffeine it hypes them up give a child with ADHD caffeine and it will actually calm them down.
                That's exactly correct. If a child does not have true ADHD which in my thoughts is a true chemical issue, meds will not help them. It will just make them more hyper.

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                • Leigh
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                  • Apr 2013
                  • 3814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MN Mom
                  In light of a few recent threads on behavior problems, I thought I'd share an interesting article I read yesterday!

                  Is ADHD a biological-neurological disorder? Surprisingly, the answer to this question depends on where you live.


                  Have a great weekend everybody!!! happyface
                  Even the kids in the US are stressed out and overscheduled. I saw a study stating that many kids diagnosed with ADHD are actually just TIRED! Once kids previously diagnosed with ADHD started getting a good nights sleep, the diagnosis was effectively "cancelled". And I certainly can see it in my business. Kids getting to bed at 10:30 PM and up at 6AM....these kids are the ones who fight going down for their naps, then fight when you wake them up. Kids don't drag butt like we do when we are tired-they tend to get hyperactive (as any parent can attest to! )

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                  • Solandia
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 372

                    #10
                    Originally posted by itlw8
                    The thing is if there are parenting skills and environment problems the meds won't fis the problem. The meds are a stimulant and ONLY calm and help people concentrate that have ADHD for other people it works as a stimulant .

                    give a normal child caffeine it hypes them up give a child with ADHD caffeine and it will actually calm them down.
                    Which, if one thinks about medicating with caffeine....more French kids than american kids have coffe in the morning(milky coffee, but still...) ... The French could be inadvertently medicating some of their ADHD kids and never know that the child is ADHD.

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                    • Live and Learn
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 956

                      #11
                      Maybe the French are more tolerant of the natural energy of boys. They feed and exercise them in a way that manages the boys' energy?

                      I find it hard to believe that all of these (mostly) boys on ADHD meds really need it. Recent statistics state 1 in 5 American school age boys are now medicated.

                      Of course some people REALLY NEED the ADHD help. But 1 in 5?

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                      • Unregistered

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                        That's exactly correct. If a child does not have true ADHD which in my thoughts is a true chemical issue, meds will not help them. It will just make them more hyper.
                        Thank you!! I used to be one of the people who thought ADHD was a discipline issue- then I had a son with it!!! He was suddenly failing in school- he was well behaved but just wasn't getting it... Testing (which we expected to show that he had LD) showed signs of ADHD. The only reason it was caught was because the tester was observant-
                        He was put on meds (which was an extremely diff choice for me- ) and caught up- he is now in high school and a solid 80's student! Imagine with out those meds he would have been in a special school!!! Those meds allowed him to be fully who he is! And even at 15 you can surely tell the days he forgot his medication!
                        People who don't live it don't know- and IMO articles like this just put more of a stigma on parents choosing to treat or not.

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                        • Cradle2crayons
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                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3642

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          Thank you!! I used to be one of the people who thought ADHD was a discipline issue- then I had a son with it!!! He was suddenly failing in school- he was well behaved but just wasn't getting it... Testing (which we expected to show that he had LD) showed signs of ADHD. The only reason it was caught was because the tester was observant-
                          He was put on meds (which was an extremely diff choice for me- ) and caught up- he is now in high school and a solid 80's student! Imagine with out those meds he would have been in a special school!!! Those meds allowed him to be fully who he is! And even at 15 you can surely tell the days he forgot his medication!
                          People who don't live it don't know- and IMO articles like this just put more of a stigma on parents choosing to treat or not.
                          I totally get what you are saying. I was in denial for a while and when I finally got out of denial about my daughter I struggled about meds too. But I compare her on meds like a light switch. It took me about a week to really realize how different her life was on meds... For the better... Then I felt bad that I had let her miss out in life because I was hesitant about meds. Even though she has more than just ADHD I can't imagine where we would be without all three of her ADHD medications. She's 10 now.

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                          • Kaddidle Care
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 2090

                            #14
                            Very interesting article. I think you all realize that ADD and ADHD is over diagnosed here in the States. There are some children that will benefit from medication but I feel way too many are on it.

                            To the person that mentioned lack of sleep - you have a good point. My son that was diagnosed with it is a major sleeper. When he was a baby he slept 16 hours a day. In Kindergarten he came home and took a nap and to this day he does not do well if he doesn't have enough sleep. (he is in his early 20's)

                            Caffeine does nothing for him but make him irritable but I am glad to see they touched on the dietary topic. I hope that everyone that has their child on meds ruled out dietary issues first. My son still avoids peanut products as he knows it exacerbates his symptoms and makes him extremely cranky like he hasn't slept all night.

                            I am now watching food items again with my 2nd son because he sleep walks. Overtiredness is #1 cause but we are seeing a connection with red food dye as well.

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                            • AfterSchoolMom
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1973

                              #15
                              On the sleeping thing - My ADHD son has a really hard time sleeping. It takes him several hours to settle down at night and he gets up really early. I definitely think there's a link there.

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