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  • mac60
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • May 2008
    • 1610

    #16
    But now you are not getting your holiday pay that you are entitled to. Is she getting holiday pay for those 2 days off?

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    • legomom922
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 1020

      #17
      I feel you are getting all your pay that you are entitled to. If you work 3 days, you get 3 days pay. It has nothing to do with getting holiday pay or not. It seems some are trying to get you to rip off your client,by getting paid for 4 days when you are only working 3. Just my 2 cents.. I think it would be a whole different story, if you were only working 2 days and trying to get paid for 3 and she only wanted to pay you for 2, or if she was trying to get out of paying you for the holiday. But this is clearly not the case here. Her hrs changed for that week, and therefore her chilcare needs changed also. I feel offended for this woman by some saying she is "milking" you. Sure some clients will try some tricks, but you will be able to see clearly when that is happening. As long as you currently have the availability to switch days, do it. And later down the road if you are full and cant switch, then she will have to pay & make other arrangements for childcare on the days you are not available. I mean is it REALLY worth losing a client and the income it provides you for one lousy holiday pay? You will end up losing more in the end if you "make her pay". How about this: Treat others the way you want to be treated. If you wouldnt want this done to you, dont do it to someone else. When in doubt, use the golden rule. It will pay off in the end!

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      • MyAngels
        Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 4217

        #18
        Originally posted by tenderhearts
        I have a new client who is here wed, thur and every other friday. They pay for 3 days even on the days he's only here wed and thursday.
        Since they are paying you for every other Friday, even though he's not in care without (presumably) complaint, I would, as a goodwill gesture, change their schedule without requiring extra payment. Sometimes (and I stress "sometimes") in this business a little bit of give goes a long way toward building a good, long-lasting relationship with a family that oftentimes leads to good referrals and word-of-mouth advertising. JMHO.

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        • Lucy
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 1654

          #19
          Originally posted by Quincy
          I get the impression that she needs to switch her hours at HER job to accomodate her own clients for that week. It doesn't sound like she is trying to milk holidays out of you, it's just that her schedule shifted. If that is right, i'd be nice and let her switch without charge.
          That's what I said. I think?? Did you mean to quote me on that or the OP?

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          • Lucy
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 1654

            #20
            Originally posted by legomom922
            Let her switch. The only reason why I charge for holidays to begin with anyway is so that I still get paid when the holiday comes, as my bills are always the same. If I am charging them 3 days, I dont care what 3 days they are. tYou are not losing out on anything! You still get your holiday off and get paid for 3 days. Non issue as far as I'm concerned.
            EXACTLY! Wish I could've worded it clearly like you did. She's still getting paid for 3 days either way. I feel like the paid holidays are only for the full-timers anyway. Anyone less than 5 days/wk is a part-timer and therefore on a daily basis to me.

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            • Francine
              Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 460

              #21
              I actually just had this come up over Memorial Day, both parents work in stores that were open Memorial Day, since I had taken it off one of the parents had to change their schedule to take it off and work the day they would normally have off. They are contracted for 4 days, I got paid for 4 days, doesn't matter to me what 4 days I get paid for as long as I get paid. I have all really good parents, I want to keep them so I work with them as much as I can.

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              • laundryduchess@yahoo.com
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 616

                #22
                I have one mom contracted for mondays, then another contracted for thurs and fri, if Mon needs to switch to wed, she pays me double. Her "spot" is monday,.... If she needs additional, or needs to switch,.. she pays for an additional day. Same with thurs and fri,.. if they need a tuesday, they pay extra. No matter If Im closed on a day and that is why they need to switch or what, they have a year advance notice of any closings,... Not my responsibility to be available to them if they dont cover my holidays in advance. Here, it doesnt matter if you are part or full time, your slot is guaranteed to always be available to you and that is why you pay wether your here or not.

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                • mac60
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1610

                  #23
                  Originally posted by laundryduchess@yahoo.com
                  I have one mom contracted for mondays, then another contracted for thurs and fri, if Mon needs to switch to wed, she pays me double. Her "spot" is monday,.... If she needs additional, or needs to switch,.. she pays for an additional day. Same with thurs and fri,.. if they need a tuesday, they pay extra. No matter If Im closed on a day and that is why they need to switch or what, they have a year advance notice of any closings,... Not my responsibility to be available to them if they dont cover my holidays in advance. Here, it doesnt matter if you are part or full time, your slot is guaranteed to always be available to you and that is why you pay wether your here or not.
                  I agree with you. I am a very giving person when it comes to my families. I have and will continue to work with them to keep a good relationship. My situation was a manipulating mom and every Monday holiday (we have a lot of Monday school closures), she was guaranteed to change her days. I do charge for holidays if I am closed and if family is scheduled to come. If mom changes her days from Monday to Tuesday, then I am losing my holiday pay, and she is gaining hers.

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                  • legomom922
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1020

                    #24
                    Personally I dont think it is a matter of "losing holiday pay". I just dont want to lose out out on my "normal" weekly payck if a holiday is in the same week.

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                    • momofsix
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1846

                      #25
                      Originally posted by laundryduchess@yahoo.com
                      I have one mom contracted for mondays, then another contracted for thurs and fri, if Mon needs to switch to wed, she pays me double. Her "spot" is monday,.... If she needs additional, or needs to switch,.. she pays for an additional day. Same with thurs and fri,.. if they need a tuesday, they pay extra. No matter If Im closed on a day and that is why they need to switch or what, they have a year advance notice of any closings,... Not my responsibility to be available to them if they dont cover my holidays in advance. Here, it doesnt matter if you are part or full time, your slot is guaranteed to always be available to you and that is why you pay wether your here or not.

                      I am NOT trying to start an argument here, so please don't take it that way. i don't charge any holidays...so I'm really wondering if i do how I would explain it. But according to what is in bold, if they're paying for that slot to always be available, then Holiday pay doesn't make sense b/c the slot really isn't available. Do you get where I'm confused? i'm just trying to think of arguments the parents would give me and how I'd explain it to them,

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                      • JJPlaycare
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 292

                        #26
                        It is a Holiday, you are closed, no daycare available those days right? You deserve a day off and you deserve to be paid for it, just like anyone else - including this mom I would think! Yes she is rearranging her clients, but she is still getting the holiday off and probably getting paid for it as well, just as you should!! I would just say yes that is fine you can pick up these extra days and this is what it will cost! If you do not have paid holidays and just have them off than I wouldn't worry about it and I would just rearrange to accomodate her and get paid for your three days! If you do get paid for holidays you deserve to and I would take the holidays paid and also charge her for whatever days she picks up! : ) You are adding work for yourself for the other days by adding a child and you deserve to be paid for it just as you deserve to be paid for your holidays!!

                        If it was a simple change of schedule thing and didn't have anything to do with a holiday I would have no problem rearranging her schedule and only charging for the 3 days they used, I have done this with some of my families!! But, since it is a holiday and you have these days off and deserve payment for them and now you are rearranging to accomodate her you should still be paid for your holidays and for whatever days she rearranges to!!

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                        • laundryduchess@yahoo.com
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 616

                          #27
                          I get paid holidays off, if you are scheduled to be here on a monday, and Its a paid holiday for me, you pay me. And I am off. Everyone pays their normal rate, for the week, if your a monday only,.. and its a monday holiday you pay, if you are a thursday family,.. and its a holiday monday you wouldnt normally be here on a monday so its not paid from you. If you want to use an additional day per week for whatever reason,... I charge extra. You said you dont get paid holidays, Thats where we are different., Paid holidays are just that,.. if I work at a bank, and they have a federal holiday, and are closed and they pay their workers,.. then they work an extra day later in the week,..... they are paid for those hours,.... I am the same,....

                          also,.. on occasion I have kept kids on a sunday as emergency care, or one time about 10 yrs ago I had a child on the 4th of July,.. paid holiday for me,.. so,.. I charged triple time,... If I work on a paid holiday I get triple time. Just like a factory worker. Same goes for weekends,... or overnight,.. triple the normal rate.

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                          • legomom922
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 1020

                            #28
                            OMG!! Now we are comparing banks & multi million dollar corporations to a working mom who had a baby and is trying to make ends meet?? Obviously famlies need the money they make from work to support their famlies and pay their mortgages, and pay for their childs health care, food, diapers etc, otherwise I'm sure they would rather stay home raising their children themselves! All you guys want to do is make the poor mom "pay" through the nose. I cant believe how greedy people can be!! You are not a corporation, you do not "deserve" paid holidays, but you "want" them, and you want them at any cost! Th eonly reason why I charge for a holiday and I will say this again, is so that my pay will be the same and I wont be shorted when their is a holiday..thats it! It's not because I feel I am "entitled" to it, or "deserve" it, or because I want to make sure a family "pays" me for a holiday or I will feel cheated! My bills dont stop because there is a holiday or a mom takes a day off or has a vacation! I am not out to rip off anybody. You want to treated like you are being paid by some major company..maybe you ought to have these moms pay money towards your 401 k, pay your health insurance, pay for all of your vacation, sick and personal days, and give you a raise every 6 months....

                            The greed on this thread is extremely upsetting. TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED! Stop trying to take advantage of people who are working to pay their bills! You are not their responsibility! Take rsponsibility for yourself, and if you want all these benefits, maybe you should get a different job...

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                            • My Daycare
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 234

                              #29
                              You are working the same amount of time that week when its supposed to be a holiday or extra pay for no work. If you don't charge then you are not really getting that holiday pay because you are working the same amount of time. However, I personally LOVE the notice that she is giving you. I am way more likely to give in to requests for those who actually communicate.

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                              • DCMomOf3
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1246

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Joyce
                                That's what I said. I think?? Did you mean to quote me on that or the OP?
                                I meant to quote you, I was agreeing.

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