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I use time outs... They've worked well for me for 20 years and no kids were damaged because I used it. Even though I don't use it as a first line of discipline.... I still use them. Opinions are like... Well you know..l everyone has one. If something is working for you, use it. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make your choices bad.
As far as the picking things up for my personal kids, I have what we refer to as the "uh oh box" it's a big box with a list of laminated chores... If they leave their stuff out, I pick it up and in order to get it out, they have to pick a chore and complete it and I have to check their chore.
The daycare kids pick up or they don't get the toys. If they leave them on the floor, those toys get out up for x amount of time or days until they can learn to pick up.
In my CDA and NHI info, natural consequences are defined as negative or positive consequences. For instance. A child isn't acting right while swinging. You say, Johnny if you keep doing that you are going to fall out of the swing. Johnny continues, he falls out. Likely he isn't hurt but of course a fall scares them. That's a natural consequence for not minding.
At my house, if kids don't eat, they do without until the next snack or meal.mthey don't go to time out for that
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I use time outs pretty much like you do. If repeated re direction and distraction etc don't work, I use it as a consequence. Not to be weird, but it's not realistic for me to shadow four kids who aren't minding. My personal opinion and I'm sure to get bashed for this, our society has gotten to the point that we don't want a child to be sad they are in time out. We are so worry their feelings may be hurt that we don't want to discipline them anymore. I got spanked as a child and I'm not damaged. Yes, they are designed to sting and sting they did. Duh that was the point. As an adult, if I break the law there are punishments for that. Oh wait, now our prisons are better than some elderly people live. No wonder people don't respect the laws, there really aren't any consequences anymore and that's exactly how some people want to raise children. Not me, my kids know there are very real consequences for what they do. They are all well adjusted high functioning emotionally stable children. Wen they break the rules they know the behavior isn't good and there are consequences. They also know when they do good, there are lots of rewards.
That's my two cents. Lol
As far as the picking things up for my personal kids, I have what we refer to as the "uh oh box" it's a big box with a list of laminated chores... If they leave their stuff out, I pick it up and in order to get it out, they have to pick a chore and complete it and I have to check their chore.
The daycare kids pick up or they don't get the toys. If they leave them on the floor, those toys get out up for x amount of time or days until they can learn to pick up.
In my CDA and NHI info, natural consequences are defined as negative or positive consequences. For instance. A child isn't acting right while swinging. You say, Johnny if you keep doing that you are going to fall out of the swing. Johnny continues, he falls out. Likely he isn't hurt but of course a fall scares them. That's a natural consequence for not minding.
At my house, if kids don't eat, they do without until the next snack or meal.mthey don't go to time out for that
.I use time outs pretty much like you do. If repeated re direction and distraction etc don't work, I use it as a consequence. Not to be weird, but it's not realistic for me to shadow four kids who aren't minding. My personal opinion and I'm sure to get bashed for this, our society has gotten to the point that we don't want a child to be sad they are in time out. We are so worry their feelings may be hurt that we don't want to discipline them anymore. I got spanked as a child and I'm not damaged. Yes, they are designed to sting and sting they did. Duh that was the point. As an adult, if I break the law there are punishments for that. Oh wait, now our prisons are better than some elderly people live. No wonder people don't respect the laws, there really aren't any consequences anymore and that's exactly how some people want to raise children. Not me, my kids know there are very real consequences for what they do. They are all well adjusted high functioning emotionally stable children. Wen they break the rules they know the behavior isn't good and there are consequences. They also know when they do good, there are lots of rewards.
That's my two cents. Lol
We have had many children who absolutely will not pick up after themselves at home and do it here quickly and happily. We do make it a game, races, high fives, exclamations of how fast they are, and how good of a job they did. We have a game with the last few children every day where we play eye spy trying to find any toys not in the right bins and putting them where they go. They love this one and always try to beat me in finding the misplaced toys!
totally agree!!! It's a shame to make a kid sad because you correct them 
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