Daycare Dangers

[canadiancare]

I am not sure why this is being discussed but whether it is a fact or not the mommy boyfriend thing is pretty discriminatory. I bet daddy's girlfriends can be just as mean/abusive.

As far as putting any credence into the original poster's opinion I don't get why this forum of all things would stir up the troll juice for someone.

Yes there are horrible daycares, daycare providers and horrible parents in this world. Let's just hope that none of the children we are responsible for are living this.

[canadiancare]

Also according to WHO, statistically single mothers are the most likely to be physically abusive towards their children (stressed to the breaking point), and do much better when they have a strong support circle and education.

Male caregivers are more likely to be sexually abusive (no specification as to relationship to the child).

These statistics are based on cases reported so it is entirely possible that single mothers get reported more often because they are followed more closely by social services.

[nannyde]

I am not sure why this is being discussed but whether it is a fact or not the mommy boyfriend thing is pretty discriminatory. I bet daddy's girlfriends can be just as mean/abusive. .

you would loose that bet

[canadiancare]

I'd rather lose weight than lose a bet but here are some stats for you. My brain is a numbers one so this is how I make sense of things.

192,321 cases in the data provided by the US govt at aspe.hhs.gov

46% of the perpetrators (89 028) were male
of those 89 028, 26% were non-parents, 13 % (3015) of who were non-relatives.

54% of the perpetrators (103,293) were female
4% of those women (4131) were step mothers, father's girlfriends, adoptive mothers

so yes a higher percentage of male non-relatives commit abuse but since a higher percentage of women are reported abusers the numbers end up higher on the female side.

Maybe women are less likely to report their boyfriends but, in the end the statistics say women abuse more often than men do.

[nannyde]

I'd rather lose weight than lose a bet but here are some stats for you. My brain is a numbers one so this is how I make sense of things.

192,321 cases in the data provided by the US govt at aspe.hhs.gov

46% of the perpetrators (89 028) were male
of those 89 028, 26% were non-parents, 13 % (3015) of who were non-relatives.

54% of the perpetrators (103,293) were female
4% of those women (4131) were step mothers, father's girlfriends, adoptive mothers

so yes a higher percentage of male non-relatives commit abuse but since a higher percentage of women are reported abusers the numbers end up higher on the female side.

Maybe women are less likely to report their boyfriends but, in the end the statistics say women abuse more often than men do.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/cm11.pdf#page=80

Look at exhibit Four E on page 59
Parner of parent male to partner of parent female

This is a long paper but it has really great breakdowns if you have the time.

I don't have time to do this research again but this was one easy one to find.

[canadiancare]

Unless I am in the wrong section it is 36 fatalities by boyfriends, 3 by girlfriends 27 by childcare providers and 906 by one or both parents (305 by the mom)

Overall abuse stats (yes death is the worst) still show that women are the perpetrators more often than men. This would include emotional and physical abuse.

[Sugar Magnolia]

Unless I am in the wrong section it is 36 fatalities by boyfriends, 3 by girlfriends 27 by childcare providers and 906 by one or both parents (305 by the mom)

Overall abuse stats (yes death is the worst) still show that women are the perpetrators more often than men. This would include emotional and physical abuse.

To the OP, who is likely just a troll......

Thanks so much for stirring the pot. I'm convinced you didn't post this as a public service announcement, you likely just wanted to feel better about yourself and diss.some hard working, loving, and dedicated professionals.

Look.at the quoted text above.
Daycare providers: 27
Parents: 906

Its like golf, honey, low score wins. Your argument is ridiculous. It doesn't take a statistician to see that more children suffer abuse at home than at daycare.

Sorry to the ladies who took the time to research this topic to prove the troll wrong.

[Leanna]

Ugh...is anyone else tired of trying to explain that, just like everything else in the world, there are good child cares and there are bad child cares. There are good restaurants and there are restaurants I wouldn't eat at. There are good stores and stores I won't shop in. There are good doctors and doctors I won't see. There are good plumbers and plumbers I won't hire. Get the picture?
I am tired of the only examples of home child care people use are the worst possible examples, Tata, etc. There ARE home-based child care providers who treat this as a profession worthy of training and education and put a lot of time and effort into our work and CARE about the children and families we work with.

If you are against child care on principle then you will have to be creative. You have a lot of other choices:
- Job share with someone and trade off work hours and child care.
- Have grandma and grandpa (or Aunt Mary or Uncle Joe) do childcare.
- Work opposite shift as your co-parent so you can trade off child care duties.
- Join or start a parent co-op child care.
- Don't have children.
- Find a job that will allow you to bring your infant with you. I know two people (one a teacher and one a librarian) who do this.
-Work from home.

[Angelsj]

I find it incredibly interesting that a thread that had the POTENTIAL for becoming an issue (sister wives) was locked after only a few replies, even though no one was getting out of line, yet this thread is ok, despite the obvious trolling going on here.

[nannyde]

Unless I am in the wrong section it is 36 fatalities by boyfriends, 3 by girlfriends 27 by childcare providers and 906 by one or both parents (305 by the mom)

Overall abuse stats (yes death is the worst) still show that women are the perpetrators more often than men. This would include emotional and physical abuse.

Oh I agree that parents are at the top of the heap. I think we are looking at a couple of different things.

I'm saying that in death and life altering injuries that day care providers aren't as risky as mommy's boyfriend.

I know mommy is a higher risk than her boyfriend.

I'm looking at it once you remove the parents or parent participated....

I'm looking at it from the OP's deal of CHOOSING the right person. She is more likely to choose a boyfriend that will abuse than a day care provider that will abuse. We see SO much about choosing a provider when the public service announcements need to focus on choosing a non related male to care for your kids at any time... with or without money.

[Sugar Magnolia]

Ugh...is anyone else tired of trying to explain that, just like everything else in the world, there are good child cares and there are bad child cares. There are good restaurants and there are restaurants I wouldn't eat at. There are good stores and stores I won't shop in. There are good doctors and doctors I won't see. There are good plumbers and plumbers I won't hire. Get the picture?
I am tired of the only examples of home child care people use are the worst possible examples, Tata, etc. There ARE home-based child care providers who treat this as a profession worthy of training and education and put a lot of time and effort into our work and CARE about the children and families we work with.

If you are against child care on principle then you will have to be creative. You have a lot of other choices:
- Job share with someone and trade off work hours and child care.
- Have grandma and grandpa (or Aunt Mary or Uncle Joe) do childcare.
- Work opposite shift as your co-parent so you can trade off child care duties.
- Join or start a parent co-op child care.
- Don't have children.
- Find a job that will allow you to bring your infant with you. I know two people (one a teacher and one a librarian) who do this.
-Work from home.

TRUE, TRUE, ALL OF THAT! I would just like to add that applies to centers as well.

[Unregistered]

I just took an infant/toddler seminar that focused on secure attachment & actually the research shows that as long as an infant has ONE secure attachment-be it with mom,dad,grandma,grandpa,a caregiver-that they will develop just fine emotionally.sure there are bad day cares but there's a lot of good ones too.i for one take my job very seriously!

[craftymissbeth]

I find it incredibly interesting that a thread that had the POTENTIAL for becoming an issue (sister wives) was locked after only a few replies, even though no one was getting out of line, yet this thread is ok, despite the obvious trolling going on here.

I still haven't figured out why that thread was locked. The thread about gay marriage stayed alive and well for way longer than it should have.

[Unregistered]

I actually did not mean to come across as a troll. What I didn't realize was the audience on here, which is completely my fault. I wanted to voice to parents that choosing a good daycare is important because there are so many stories out there of awful things happening to children. I do realize there are good daycares out there, and I encourage parents to find those good daycares.

[nannyde]

I actually did not mean to come across as a troll. What I didn't realize was the audience on here, which is completely my fault. I wanted to voice to parents that choosing a good daycare is important because there are so many stories out there of awful things happening to children. I do realize there are good daycares out there, and I encourage parents to find those good daycares.

If you were to pick a cause to promote the importance of choice why would you choose child care? Why not focus on the segments of the population that really pose a significant risk? Did you KNOW that child care providers are not even close to the greatest risk to children?

I'm all for education but really wonder why child care providers are targeted when statistics show they are a markedly less risk than the childs parents and boyfriends.

Why did you pick child care? Is it because money is exchanged?