Are You Kidding Me!!!!!

[Unregistered]

So i just found out this morning that a child that has been in my care for a year an a half. Might have gental herpes!!!! Mom disclosed also that she does have herpes so she thinks that this child contracted this through birth!!! I do have a contract that has a space to list this stuff and she never ever said anything about this until now, putting my family and the other children i keep at risk!!! Please if anyone out there has some advice as to how i should proceed with this it would be of great help!!! I really like the lady and she is really sweet i just don't want to hurt any feelings or create any bad blood. I am just so beside myself right now has to how a parent can not disclose this type of information!

[lilbiddapopcorn]

Maybe if she's as sweet as you say she is, she didn't think her child had the disease until recently. Maybe she spotted some sores on her she's never seen before...ya never know. I would try giving her the benefit of the doubt that she has a reasonable explanation for not saying anything, taking your children to the doctor, and getting some information on ways this can be spread. If it's something that's going to be spreading through your daycare no matter what you do, you're going to have to make the decision to either tell this mom her daughter can't come anymore or risk the health of everyone in the house. I personally...I don't understand how a little girl would get genital herpes from birth. If you have herpes, and you know it when you give birth, usually your doctor does too, and they either c-section or give you an IV that helps the baby not contract it. And even when they do contract it through their mothers i'm almost sure the sores present on their bodies, not their genitals. I will check with my mom, she's been in the medical field for years. I would definitely be at the doctor's like...yesterday if I were you.

[Guest]

I hope this helps.

http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/welcome/infectionsguide/herpes.html

[Unregistered]

Reality Check

I know a per son who has this disease and it is not curable. You need to tell the parent that she has to find a new care provider for her child. It sounds harsh but you also have to think of the other children as well as your own family. The mother should have disclosed this information to you ahead of time.

[Unregistered]

thank you guys so much for your input. I have told this mother that i can no longer keep her child until i get a no she doesn't have this. I have done some research and i have spoke to the health dept. and the finding are quite sickning.......my heart is really hurting for this lil girl cause it is really starting to look like CPS my need to get involved. But thanks again!

[Guest]

not trying to persuade you or anything, but the child having herpes is like a child with the common cold. if the child is being treated and the mother is being proactive about the health and welfare of her child, what more can you expect from her?? atleast the condition is not constantly outbreaking, she does have bouts when it lies dormant; which can last for YEARS. not telling you what to do, but I think you are over reacting....just a bit.
UNO

[Unregistered]

I'm not positive about this, but if the child didn't contract this virus through the birth process, it is not possible to contract it without sexual contact. In other words, the child cannot give it to you or the other children without sexual contact. If you are using proper diapering procedures, and washing hands, then you cannot "catch" it. In reality, about 25% of the adult population has this virus, alot not even knowing it. (I did research on this last year for a class I was taking). I think the word "herpes" sounds alot scarier than it actually is. I would however be very concerned how the child contracted it. If she had it at birth, I would think there would have been some indication before now, which leads me to think, maybe she caught it afterwards, which means that someone gave it to her. How old is the child? This poor girl probably has more to worry about than the virus.

[Unregistered]

As the mother I would have definitely "first had the daughter tested." before even saying anything, she didn't have to say anything if the daughter never had it. Than she needs to take extra precautions with her own household to make sure it doesn't spread; but I really don't see how it would spread to her children, other than birth...

[Unregistered]

Make a phone call

As a day care owner for the past 10 years I found the best thing to do with a sensitive and important issue like that is to call your licensing rep and ask them how to proceed. If it isn't handled correctly it can cost you clients and cause lots of panic that may not be necessary.

[Unregistered]

So i just found out this morning that a child that has been in my care for a year an a half. Might have gental herpes!!!! Mom disclosed also that she does have herpes so she thinks that this child contracted this through birth!!! I do have a contract that has a space to list this stuff and she never ever said anything about this until now, putting my family and the other children i keep at risk!!! Please if anyone out there has some advice as to how i should proceed with this it would be of great help!!! I really like the lady and she is really sweet i just don't want to hurt any feelings or create any bad blood. I am just so beside myself right now has to how a parent can not disclose this type of information!

Hi,

I have had parents with hep C (1 told me, the other their child told me and their mom confirmed it).

For everyone out there that doesn't know the following (this is accurate information, so anyone telling you it isn't, you better find out), it is breaching confidentiality:

We as providers (licensed or unlicensed) must follow these laws (it is mandatory)

If a child has any serious disease or has or has had a seriousillness/disease (hep C, AIDS, etc...), the parent does not have to tell us and we are not supposed to ask (we can ask if there is any medical information they want us to know, for emergencies). If we know a child has AIDS, etc... and they bite another child, under no circumstances can we tell a parent their child was bitten by an infected child. I'm sure there is a shot to get if that happens to protect against or reduce the chances of getting HIV or AIDS. I believe it has to be given quickly and a parent can't get it if they don't know. We can't even say an unknown child with it bit.

You can tell a parent their child was bitten (with broken skin) and there could be serious medical consequences, or something, but they would never know to expect anything. I explained the reality of that to my parents and let them know i couldn't tell them (and that I at present do not have that attendance problem), but I feel, if I ever did, I would have to tell them "Your child was bit and you REALLLLLY should look into it since his skin was broken". BUut if I did that, they would freak out, knowing what I meant and I would get into trouble. A friend told me, they had a mom use their bathroom and later told them they have a STD and asked to use it again. No one uses our family bathroom and when they use the daycare bathroom, one of us goes down behind them and cleans it immediately.

Remember, always assume and "practice" safety precautions for the worst.

[Unregistered]

So i just found out this morning that a child that has been in my care for a year an a half. Might have gental herpes!!!! Mom disclosed also that she does have herpes so she thinks that this child contracted this through birth!!! I do have a contract that has a space to list this stuff and she never ever said anything about this until now, putting my family and the other children i keep at risk!!! Please if anyone out there has some advice as to how i should proceed with this it would be of great help!!! I really like the lady and she is really sweet i just don't want to hurt any feelings or create any bad blood. I am just so beside myself right now has to how a parent can not disclose this type of information!

If you don't feel comfortable caring for a child with a illness, disease, handicap......... You need to be very careful how you terminate. They can sue discrimination. You can always say you are cutting back on the # of children or another excuse (just make sure you don't advertise or accept any daycare for a short time, for 2-3 weeks). I don't care for special needs, for several reasons, we transport all the time and can't accomodate, our daycare is very physical and most of all, I am not medically trained.

I have never had any problems, but I have seen on court shows and heard from other providers, that parents will call or have someone call to find daycare for a healthy child and the provider says yes, then sometimes the secial needs parent calls back or not, but they sue.

Daycare has to be denied for certain reasons, always say you are interviewing several families before you decide and then choose the famiky you want, that is legal

[Unregistered]

Come on people...

Call a doctor and get a professional opinion or two.

[Unregistered]

so upset, grandaughter supposedly contracted herpes at daycare

Maybe if she's as sweet as you say she is, she didn't think her child had the disease until recently. Maybe she spotted some sores on her she's never seen before...ya never know. I would try giving her the benefit of the doubt that she has a reasonable explanation for not saying anything, taking your children to the doctor, and getting some information on ways this can be spread. If it's something that's going to be spreading through your daycare no matter what you do, you're going to have to make the decision to either tell this mom her daughter can't come anymore or risk the health of everyone in the house. I personally...I don't understand how a little girl would get genital herpes from birth. If you have herpes, and you know it when you give birth, usually your doctor does too, and they either c-section or give you an IV that helps the baby not contract it. And even when they do contract it through their mothers i'm almost sure the sores present on their bodies, not their genitals. I will check with my mom, she's been in the medical field for years. I would definitely be at the doctor's like...yesterday if I were you.

I came across this board while searching if a child can get herpes via daycare. Reason? My poor grandaughter, only three, was just at docs with sores on her bottom, they said herpes!!!!??? daughter thought she got it from daycare,but I am not believing it, until I read your post. Please, to the person with a daycare, now that you know, inform all parents of the situation. at only three she will now have to deal with this the rest of her life. we are all devastated. i thought for sure something bad happened to her, still wondering, but after reading this post, I feel a little better, herpes is bad enough, but I was more scared she had been molested. an fyi, my daughter has HPV, and they let her deliver vaginally, and the baby did not contract it, however, I don't know which is more contagious. I do know that 1 in 3 people my daughters age has HPV, pretty scarey numbers. well, im off to research some more-good luck all.

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proud mom

I am responding to the post because I am a mother to a child with herpes. it is true that the word is way scarier than what it is. My child was born with this. my Child's outbreaks never occur in the genitals. My child is currently in a daycare that know the situation and is very understanding (thank goodness). The only challenges are when an outbreak occurs. When that happens my child has to be out of school for a week to do med treatment. This is because once there is an outbreak it is contagious. Other than that, normal and healthy. A dermatologist is seen to make sure it is under control, and it always is. The outbreaks are not frequent. After the outbreak sores have healed my child is welcomed back with open arms. I feel that a lot of daycare centers should do more research on this illness, because it's never what people think it is. My child is allowed around siblings during an outbreak. I got the ok from the doctor on this matter. They are just not allowed to touch the spot. A child should be allowed to be in daycare, school, etc as long as there is team work between the parents, teachers, and doctors. Good Luck

[kitykids3]

I am responding to the post because I am a mother to a child with herpes. it is true that the word is way scarier than what it is. My child was born with this. my Child's outbreaks never occur in the genitals. My child is currently in a daycare that know the situation and is very understanding (thank goodness). The only challenges are when an outbreak occurs. When that happens my child has to be out of school for a week to do med treatment. This is because once there is an outbreak it is contagious. Other than that, normal and healthy. A dermatologist is seen to make sure it is under control, and it always is. The outbreaks are not frequent. After the outbreak sores have healed my child is welcomed back with open arms. I feel that a lot of daycare centers should do more research on this illness, because it's never what people think it is. My child is allowed around siblings during an outbreak. I got the ok from the doctor on this matter. They are just not allowed to touch the spot. A child should be allowed to be in daycare, school, etc as long as there is team work between the parents, teachers, and doctors. Good Luck

Yes, you can spread it and are contagious, even without having an outbreak. This article, and others say it. Plus, I know from someone personally. So no, a child is not normal and healthy when they have herpes but aren't having symptoms. They are still contagious to others.

"Although people are most infectious when they have an active lesion, it is also possible to shed the herpes virus and be contagious to others when an infected person does not have any symptoms. A person is usually most contagious after their first outbreak."