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  • Angelwings36
    Daycare.com Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 436

    Mother-In-Law and Husband’s Parental Leave

    So before I begin explaining anything I will remind everyone that I am in Canada. In Canada woman get 1 year of maternity leave and 35 weeks out of the year the husband can take to be home with the child too if he choses. Also being that we get 1 year of maternity leave in Canada most daycares do not accept children until they are 12 months old, which is what I do.

    Anyways, I am pregnant with our second child. Our first child is 8 years old so this is like starting all over again. My husband and I decided in order to balance things when the baby is born I would close the daycare for 2 weeks (which would be part of my holidays for the year) and then he would take 6 weeks of parental leave following that.

    I know most of you woman only close your daycare for 2 weeks and then open again with your new born and keep on going but being that I don’t care for children under 12 months of age in the daycare I am too nervous that I won’t be able to handle everything smoothly alone at that time. I think if I had more experience caring with newborns in a daycare setting I wouldn’t feel as nervous about the situation.

    This is when the mother-in-law comes in. My husbands mother in law texts me and informs me that it is not acceptable for the man to take time off when the baby is born and that although it is a government benefit and his job should be protected when he takes it company’s have a way of weeding employees out. She informed me that I would be stripping my husbands career from him that he worked so hard to obtain.

    I obviously got upset so my husband stepped in and spoke to his mother. He told her that she needs to stop trying to tell me what to do and that he is 30 years old and can figure his own personal issues out himself without outside input.

    My mother-in-law then continues to text my husband page long text messages about how it’s unethical to ever miss a day of work and that I have no idea what working a real job in the work force means and that he would lose everything for my STUPID daycare if he took time off of his job to help out. She informs my husband that his job is everything and he would have nothing if he lost it.

    I have to note at this point that my daycare brings in more $$$ then his job and that his income alone would not be able to support our family.

    I am super frustrated with my mother-in-law and I guess I just need some encouragement and support from you all.

    Thank you.
  • MamaBearCanada
    Blessed
    • Jun 2012
    • 704

    #2
    Your husband is doing nothing wrong. Those benefits are called parental leave for a reason - to be home with his new baby! He is not trying to play the system or being deceitful he is using a provided benefit for the reason it is provided.

    He is in the right track with his mother but from the sounds of things he is going to need to really put her in her place. He is a grown man and the only woman he needs input from about this issue is you not his mom and she needs to respect that. She is being rude, condescending and very disrespectful to both of you.

    He needs to tell her that she is no longer welcome to share her views on this matter and that disrespect of you or your business will not be tolerated. Your children cannot see her treat you without the respect you deserve as it sends a terrible message about the worh of a person.

    And the statement about his job being everything - very sad she thinks this way.

    Stand your ground.

    Btw - so are you not going to use your full maternity leave before the parental kicks in?

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    • Angelwings36
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 436

      #3
      Unfortunately because I am self employeed and did not pay into the benefit I will not get any paid maternity leave so we are trying to find a way to keep my daycare together after the baby borns so we will not have to struggle financially.

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      • Country Kids
        Nature Lover
        • Mar 2011
        • 5051

        #4
        You have to remember she is from a totally different generation then you so how things were when she was your age is totally different then now.

        Things my MIL told me when pregnant:

        Do not lift your hands over your head, babys cord will wrap around its neck. My child was born emergency C-section for cord being wrapped around the neck-

        No lifting 1st child when pregnant with 2nd child. I would have gotten nothing done of I had listened to this and missed out alot with 1st child

        Stay in bed for 30-40 days after delivering baby. HHMM how am I supposed to do anything when I'm the only one here. This was practiced in her culture and all the women did it!

        Our husbands don't receive that here so its hard to fathom the idea of my hubby being home for 6 weeks after baby is born. The most my hubby received was 1 week I believe.

        I also do not take little ones and only took 1 week off with my last one. I'm not going to say it was easy but it wasn't hard. I had to run it like we had a bigger family for a few weeks. Maybe a little more tv, lots of free play, learning to be quiet or talk softly, etc.

        Yes, its not right for her to be telling you hubby this but like I said, different generation and probably not heard of when she was that age.
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        • Lyss
          Chaos Coordinator :)
          • Apr 2012
          • 1429

          #5
          Originally posted by Angelwings36
          So before I begin explaining anything I will remind everyone that I am in Canada. In Canada woman get 1 year of maternity leave and 35 weeks out of the year the husband can take to be home with the child too if he choses. Also being that we get 1 year of maternity leave in Canada most daycares do not accept children until they are 12 months old, which is what I do.

          Anyways, I am pregnant with our second child. Our first child is 8 years old so this is like starting all over again. My husband and I decided in order to balance things when the baby is born I would close the daycare for 2 weeks (which would be part of my holidays for the year) and then he would take 6 weeks of parental leave following that.

          I know most of you woman only close your daycare for 2 weeks and then open again with your new born and keep on going but being that I don’t care for children under 12 months of age in the daycare I am too nervous that I won’t be able to handle everything smoothly alone at that time. I think if I had more experience caring with newborns in a daycare setting I wouldn’t feel as nervous about the situation.

          This is when the mother-in-law comes in. My husbands mother in law texts me and informs me that it is not acceptable for the man to take time off when the baby is born and that although it is a government benefit and his job should be protected when he takes it company’s have a way of weeding employees out. She informed me that I would be stripping my husbands career from him that he worked so hard to obtain.

          I obviously got upset so my husband stepped in and spoke to his mother. He told her that she needs to stop trying to tell me what to do and that he is 30 years old and can figure his own personal issues out himself without outside input.

          My mother-in-law then continues to text my husband page long text messages about how it’s unethical to ever miss a day of work and that I have no idea what working a real job in the work force means and that he would lose everything for my STUPID daycare if he took time off of his job to help out. She informs my husband that his job is everything and he would have nothing if he lost it.

          I have to note at this point that my daycare brings in more $$$ then his job and that his income alone would not be able to support our family.

          I am super frustrated with my mother-in-law and I guess I just need some encouragement and support from you all.

          Thank you.
          1st off Congrats on your pregnancy and incoming addition! It's exciting!! happyface

          Your mother in law is a piece of work! That is insane! I would be so upset and frustrated too.

          I assume being that the government allows it your DH would have job protection. Here father's can take "paternal leave" or "FMLA" for 3 months. My DH did this when my DD was born last year. It was sooo nice to have him home and under our laws its illegal for an employer to fire someone over this, which it sounds the same for you guys. My in laws made a comment similar, about how they'll find any excuse to fire him once he's back but it didn't happen! DH asked around before taking it and found out the 2 guys had taken it in the last year and a half (plus one is on fmla leave now) so its actually really common now. Not sure how big the company your DH works for but maybe he could ask around if anyone else has taken it and then relay the stories of me that took it and still have jobs to MIL?

          With my inlaws it's a generational thing I think. My in-laws were even shocked that DH would be in the room when DD was born, FIL was in the waiting room and MIL was completely alone beyond nurses (which she has said is the reason my DH is an only child, she felt scared and alone ). That aside I would demand DH have a talk with her and expect an apology (easier said than done i understand!). It's ridiculous to belittle you and your business that way! Especially if you are bringing in a larger part of the income.

          I don't have experience having a newborn and DC as I opened mine again (after taking a break for a few years) when DD was 3 months. There are lots of ladies here that have experience taking a few weeks (even days!) off an then jumping back in! I'm in awe of them!

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          • Willow
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • May 2012
            • 2683

            #6
            Originally posted by Country Kids
            You have to remember she is from a totally different generation then you so how things were when she was your age is totally different then now.
            Holy buckets I disagree that that is any kind of reasonable excuse. A woman her age should above all else understand decency and manners....both of which she clearly lacks to an alarming degree.

            She is being rude, disrespectful and downright nasty. It is NONE of her business what her son and his wife do in regards to expanding their family.

            Offering advice (no matter how silly it is) is one thing. Bullying and harassing someone simply because they are doing what they believe is best for their family......that's just disgusting and vile.


            OP - I'm sure your husband has his own feelings about it but I'd consider someone that treated me and my family like this toxic, and then promptly cut them out completely. Until she learned to respect what I did and me in general as a human being there is no way I'd allow her in my life. IMHO your husband should agree and be doing everything in his power to protect you from her nastiness. If my husbands mother ever spoke about me that way he'd be drawing some definite lines in the sand with her and if she didn't care enough to respect them she'd be making her own decision to vacate our lives.


            What you and your husband do in regards to caring for your family is your business and your business alone. No one has a right to say boo about it. Please don't give the witch the satisfaction of raining in your parade, this is a time you deserve nothing but love and support!!!

            A huge congrats! I hope the rest of your pregnancy and delivery go fantastically well!

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            • Country Kids
              Nature Lover
              • Mar 2011
              • 5051

              #7
              Originally posted by Lyss
              1st off Congrats on your pregnancy and incoming addition! It's exciting!! happyface

              Your mother in law is a piece of work! That is insane! I would be so upset and frustrated too.

              I assume being that the government allows it your DH would have job protection. Here father's can take "paternal leave" or "FMLA" for 3 months. My DH did this when my DD was born last year. It was sooo nice to have him home and under our laws its illegal for an employer to fire someone over this, which it sounds the same for you guys. My in laws made a comment similar, about how they'll find any excuse to fire him once he's back but it didn't happen! DH asked around before taking it and found out the 2 guys had taken it in the last year and a half (plus one is on fmla leave now) so its actually really common now. Not sure how big the company your DH works for but maybe he could ask around if anyone else has taken it and then relay the stories of me that took it and still have jobs to MIL?

              With my inlaws it's a generational thing I think. My in-laws were even shocked that DH would be in the room when DD was born, FIL was in the waiting room and MIL was completely alone beyond nurses (which she has said is the reason my DH is an only child, she felt scared and alone ). That aside I would demand DH have a talk with her and expect an apology (easier said than done i understand!). It's ridiculous to belittle you and your business that way! Especially if you are bringing in a larger part of the income.

              I don't have experience having a newborn and DC as I opened mine again (after taking a break for a few years) when DD was 3 months. There are lots of ladies here that have experience taking a few weeks (even days!) off an then jumping back in! I'm in awe of them!
              Isn't our FMLA unpaid though? I was thinking it was as that is why alot of people do not do it. We have the right to do it but totally unpaid.

              It sounds like in Canada they are paid for it-is that correct?
              Each day is a fresh start
              Never look back on regrets
              Live life to the fullest
              We only get one shot at this!!

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              • Angelwings36
                Daycare.com Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 436

                #8
                In Canada men get 35 weeks of paid parental leave countrykids.

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                • MamaBearCanada
                  Blessed
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 704

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Angelwings36
                  In Canada men get 35 weeks of paid parental leave countrykids.
                  I thought it was 35 weeks parental to be shared between the parents. The dad could take all 35 but then the mom wouldn't have any to use only her initial maternity leave.

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                  • Angelwings36
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 436

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Willow
                    Holy buckets I disagree that that is any kind of reasonable excuse. A woman her age should above all else understand decency and manners....both of which she clearly lacks to an alarming degree.

                    She is being rude, disrespectful and downright nasty. It is NONE of her business what her son and his wife do in regards to expanding their family.

                    Offering advice (no matter how silly it is) is one thing. Bullying and harassing someone simply because they are doing what they believe is best for their family......that's just disgusting and vile.


                    OP - I'm sure your husband has his own feelings about it but I'd consider someone that treated me and my family like this toxic, and then promptly cut them out completely. Until she learned to respect what I did and me in general as a human being there is no way I'd allow her in my life. IMHO your husband should agree and be doing everything in his power to protect you from her nastiness. If my husbands mother ever spoke about me that way he'd be drawing some definite lines in the sand with her and if she didn't care enough to respect them she'd be making her own decision to vacate our lives.


                    What you and your husband do in regards to caring for your family is your business and your business alone. No one has a right to say boo about it. Please don't give the witch the satisfaction of raining in your parade, this is a time you deserve nothing but love and support!!!

                    A huge congrats! I hope the rest of your pregnancy and delivery go fantastically well!
                    My husband did talk to my mother in law and told her that she should apologize to me. She informed my husband that she didn't feel that she should be the one to apologize to me as she was merely making a suggestion. This is when she sent my husband the page long text messages telling him it's unethical to ever miss a day of work and that I have no idea what working a real job in the work force means and that he would lose everything for my STUPID daycare if he took time off of his job to help out. She informs my husband that his job is everything and he would have nothing if he lost it. She ended her conversation with my husband saying that she would apologize to me but she hopes that he doesn't jeopardize his job because of my daycare. Her apology was short, "Sorry for yesterday." I feel that the only reason she apologized to me was because she wanted to keep the peace with her son as she admitted to him that she stills feels what she said to and about me was right.

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                    • Angelwings36
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 436

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MamaBearCanada
                      I thought it was 35 weeks parental to be shared between the parents. The dad could take all 35 but then the mom wouldn't have any to use only her initial maternity leave.
                      How much parental leave can I take?

                      Birth mother - 34 consecutive weeks of unpaid leave beginning immediately after the end of the 18 week maternity leave.

                      Birth mother (no maternity leave) – 37 consecutive weeks of parental leave.

                      Birth father - 37 consecutive weeks of parental leave.

                      Adopting parent (primary caregiver) - 34 consecutive weeks if 18 week adoption leave is taken prior to parental leave.

                      Adopting parent – 37 consecutive weeks of parental leave.

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                      • Angelwings36
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 436

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MamaBearCanada
                        I thought it was 35 weeks parental to be shared between the parents. The dad could take all 35 but then the mom wouldn't have any to use only her initial maternity leave.
                        You are right. The parental leave is shared so only one or the other can take it. Or one can take part of it and the other can take what's left.

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                        • Lyss
                          Chaos Coordinator :)
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 1429

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Country Kids
                          Isn't our FMLA unpaid though? I was thinking it was as that is why alot of people do not do it. We have the right to do it but totally unpaid.

                          It sounds like in Canada they are paid for it-is that correct?
                          Yeah it is unpaid, oops I meant to put that in but must have spaced it! ! It is unpaid unless you have vacation/leave through your company (which thankfully my DH did so he got paid monthly). The company I worked for when I was pregnant (had taken a break from DC at that point) offered 6 weeks paid if you were there longer than a year but they were a nationwide company so i think they did that to meet each states requirements

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                          • MyAngels
                            Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 4217

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Willow
                            Holy buckets I disagree that that is any kind of reasonable excuse. A woman her age should above all else understand decency and manners....both of which she clearly lacks to an alarming degree.

                            She is being rude, disrespectful and downright nasty. It is NONE of her business what her son and his wife do in regards to expanding their family.

                            Offering advice (no matter how silly it is) is one thing. Bullying and harassing someone simply because they are doing what they believe is best for their family......that's just disgusting and vile.


                            OP - I'm sure your husband has his own feelings about it but I'd consider someone that treated me and my family like this toxic, and then promptly cut them out completely. Until she learned to respect what I did and me in general as a human being there is no way I'd allow her in my life. IMHO your husband should agree and be doing everything in his power to protect you from her nastiness. If my husbands mother ever spoke about me that way he'd be drawing some definite lines in the sand with her and if she didn't care enough to respect them she'd be making her own decision to vacate our lives.


                            What you and your husband do in regards to caring for your family is your business and your business alone. No one has a right to say boo about it. Please don't give the witch the satisfaction of raining in your parade, this is a time you deserve nothing but love and support!!!

                            A huge congrats! I hope the rest of your pregnancy and delivery go fantastically well!


                            My DH cut off contact with his folks for months at a time when we were first married for behavior that was not even this bad. It worked wonders, though, and we've never had any problems with them since.

                            Good for your DH for defending you - hopefully your MIL takes it seriously and backs off so you don't have to do anything so drastic as to cut her off.

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                            • MamaBearCanada
                              Blessed
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 704

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Angelwings36
                              How much parental leave can I take?

                              Birth mother - 34 consecutive weeks of unpaid leave beginning immediately after the end of the 18 week maternity leave.

                              Birth mother (no maternity leave) – 37 consecutive weeks of parental leave.

                              Birth father - 37 consecutive weeks of parental leave.

                              Adopting parent (primary caregiver) - 34 consecutive weeks if 18 week adoption leave is taken prior to parental leave.

                              Adopting parent – 37 consecutive weeks of parental leave.
                              Sorry I was thinking about the EI benefits, my mistake.

                              Service Canada
                              What are EI parental benefits?

                              EI parental benefits are offered to parents who are caring for a newborn or newly adopted child. A maximum of 35 weeks of parental benefits is available to biological or adoptive parents. The two parents can share these 35 weeks of benefits.

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