Parents Secretly Recording Daycare: Logged Out

[Blackcat31]

Dot, I am curious as to how you would feel as a parent if someone told you they possessed video footage of YOUR daughter? Video footage they obtained without your permission.

What if this person used the images and footage of your dd for their own personal reasons?

Whether or not you agree with their personal choices, how would YOU feel?

I am not being facetious but am genuinely asking for your thoughts/feelings from the "other" side of this.

[craftymissbeth]

[Second Home]

I'm just passing through, but I do hope that some people think about it and consider the tough choices that parents have to make these days when choosing schools and day cares and who to trust with their children.

Most of are parents and know how a parent feels about the safety and well being of their child . That is why we do what we do .
We too have the same struggles in finding a great school in which to send our children . Or in finding that great sitter of we want a night out without the kids , whether we have enough trust to let our child sleep over their friends house .

I don't understand why you would think as child care providers we don't understand the tough choices any parent has to make . We probably see it more than the average person.

[Blackcat31]

I'm just passing through, but I do hope that some people think about it and consider the tough choices that parents have to make these days when choosing schools and day cares and who to trust with their children.

Most of us are parents and know how a parent feels about the safety and well being of their child . That is why we do what we do .
We too have the same struggles in finding a great school in which to send our children . Or in finding that great sitter of we want a night out without the kids , whether we have enough trust to let our child sleep over their friends house .

I don't understand why you would think as child care providers we don't understand the tough choices any parent has to make . We probably see it more than the average person.

plus, most of us did what we felt we needed to do and stayed home and cared for our own children. A lot of times because we didn't trust anyone else.

[crazydaycarelady]

I think you are lying to yourself when you deny being a helicopter parent. Here is the definition: A helicopter parent (also called a cosseting parent or simply a cosseter) is a parent who pays extremely close attention to a child's or children's experiences and problems, particularly at educational institutions.

There are long term consequences to this type of parenting. It seems as if your daughter may already be showing signs of them.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Stop-Nagging-Your-Kids:-Top-Three-Consequences-of-Helicopter-Parenting&id=5617879

http://www.familynavigation.com/the-long-term-effects-of-helicopter-parenting/

http://www.positive-parenting-ally.com/helicopter-parents.html

[Annalee]

plus, most of us did what we felt we needed to do and stayed home and cared for our own children. A lot of times because we didn't trust anyone else.

You got that right!

[NightOwl]

Agreed, BC, I'm curious if the speech delay is coming from the helicopter parenting.

My husband was a helicopter for the first two years of our son's life and his speech was slow to develop. His pediatrician asked if we were anticipating his needs, doing everything for him, and I said yes. And the pediatrician said to me, "then why does he NEED to speak? He doesn't".

It was a light bulb moment and I cracked down on my husband after that. We made my son verbalize his needs and stopped responding to the pointing and grunting. His speech exploded within about 3 months.

[Sugar Magnolia]

There are plenty of centers that offer video monitoring over the Web. Why not just find one? Sheesh.

[Blackcat31]

There are plenty of centers that offer video monitoring over the Web. Why not just find one? Sheesh.

Because then mom wouldn't be getting the attention she is getting (and loving) from this situation.

Sometimes, it really isn't about the child at all and I think that's what is really going on here.

[nannyde]

I will bear in mind what someone else said about a back pack left in the classroom, that is the only point I will concede and take into consideration. I will not be baited into throwing insults or name calling in return because those of you who have said things to or about me are within your legal rights to do so. I will say that the times are changing and schools and day cares are going to need to get more used to less privacy and more monitoring. I'm not going to prevent my child from having a public or chartered education but I'm also going to be proactive in making sure she is at a comfortable school environment.

I do not need to quit my job as my job allows me to work in my home as a seamstress and sell my items online and while so many would really love to classify me as mentally disturbed or lacking, the world is a changing place and we must adapt with it until technology catches up. Unfortunately, there are not many schools that offer in class monitoring yet although I think that's a good idea.

This post came up in a google search and while I understand the tendency for day care providers to rally round one another to take their side, in real life and outside your circle I doubt many of you would have this provider as your day care for your child. Her post struck a cord in me and reinforces my concerns about the front that people put on in front of you than when you are gone and her wording and continued insinuations toward the parents and child sent a red flag up for me. If some people here were honest they would say it went off and rang false to them too but I understand that in a forum community no one is going to go against the grain.

I won't continue to post or comment on other threads, I haven't explored any other part of this forum, I just ran across this out of nowhere and I felt like someone needed to say something about how parents feel these days. So no need to worry about me, I'm just passing through, but I do hope that some people think about it and consider the tough choices that parents have to make these days when choosing schools and day cares and who to trust with their children.

Dot you keep justifying your views with "times are a changin". If you truly believe this then why don't you put your efforts into getting the laws changed to go with the times?

If you believe the blunt of society agrees than getting the laws changed will be quite easy to accomplish.

We would have to accept that you can plant, transmit, and publish all audio and video you can capture for the sake of your kid if the laws said you have the right.

Do you know that I have searched for a long time and I can't find a center daycare that transmits audio over the internet. There are many centers that transmit video and lots that record audio and video but I have not found one that transmits audio.

Now technology is changing quickly and possibly someone is doing it now but I don't know about them. I watched two centers video feeds of 400 kids for a year and let me tell you that it is extremely difficult to tell what is going on in a room with video only. Even the lowest level staff assistant figures out how to beat the cameras by week two. You would not be able to tell the goings on.with plain video and no sound. You have to have a very strong background in.child care to be able to decipher the small amount of info that comes in with just video.

Your want of sound is spot on. Sound is way way more telling than a fixed camera video. Sound is protected for a reason.

I hope you pull it off. I hope you get caught. I hope you are prosecuted and it goes national. Then you will have the national forum to protest that YOU should be able to do whatever YOU want to protect YOUR child. Then you will see how other parents feel about what you did with THEIR child's privacy. Then you will get it. It's only going to take ONE parent whose kid had a bad day to see the stomping and fist pounding that you had NO right tapeing their little POOKIE when he was in a bad spot.

You also remember that if you find anything that is off the grid in your kids care you only get ONE shot to protest before the adults figure out how you got the info. You will not be able to turf over to your kid as the information giver. The adults won't buy it and they will figure out what you have done. So make sure you are ready to put up with the little things you don't like before you show your hand on the biggie you can't walk away from. You will have to pull your kid because once they realize you have bugged the room you won't be welcome there or any other center thereafter. Be careful what you wish for for you shall surely get it.

[NightOwl]

The child couldn't be the info giver because she has speech delays because mom is a helicopter!

[NightOwl]

Dot you keep justifying your views with "times are a changin". If you truly believe this then why don't you put your efforts into getting the laws changed to go with the times?

If you believe the blunt of society agrees than getting the laws changed will be quite easy to accomplish.

We would have to accept that you can plant, transmit, and publish all audio and video you can capture for the sake of your kid if the laws said you have the right.

Do you know that I have searched for a long time and I can't find a center daycare that transmits audio over the internet. There are many centers that transmit video and lots that record audio and video but I have not found one that transmits audio.

Now technology is changing quickly and possibly someone is doing it now but I don't know about them. I watched two centers video feeds of 400 kids for a year and let me tell you that it is extremely difficult to tell what is going on in a room with video only. Even the lowest level staff assistant figures out how to beat the cameras by week two. You would not be able to tell the goings on.with plain video and no sound. You have to have a very strong background in.child care to be able to decipher the small amount of info that comes in with just video.

Your want of sound is spot on. Sound is way way more telling than a fixed camera video. Sound is protected for a reason.

I hope you pull it off. I hope you get caught. I hope you are prosecuted and it goes national. Then you will have the national forum to protest that YOU should be able to do whatever YOU want to protect YOUR child. Then you will see how other parents feel about what you did with THEIR child's privacy. Then you will get it. It's only going to take ONE parent whose kid had a bad day to see the stomping and fist pounding that you had NO right tapeing their little POOKIE when he was in a bad spot.

You also remember that if you find anything that is off the grid in your kids care you only get ONE shot to protest before the adults figure out how you got the info. You will not be able to turf over to your kid as the information giver. The adults won't buy it and they will figure out what you have done. So make sure you are ready to put up with the little things you don't like before you show your hand on the biggie you can't walk away from. You will have to pull your kid because once they realize you have bugged the room you won't be welcome there or any other center thereafter. Be careful what you wish for for you shall surely get it.

Hit. The. Nail. On. The. Head.

[Leanna]

I already gave my advice to Dot, but I am legitimately curious about the whole legal aspect of this. Many of you seem adamant that what Dot plans to do is illegal, but I am not so sure. I think the legalities of video/audio recording people vary greatly from state to state.

Also, while I do not think that she should do what she plans, I admit that there have been times when I would have really liked to have taped my kids at school, etc. Anyone else out there feel that way?

[Dot]

It's very interesting to see how Wednesday can jump to the conclusion that my child's speech delay must be due to me being a helicopter parent. Thanks for reinforcing the fact that many people who work in day care should not do so because they are the type of people to jump to conclusions and type cast a parent or child without all the facts. It reveals much about you to your friends on this board.

My daughter's speech delay is directly related to her hearing loss and the fact that she relies on a hearing aid. Also, because we paid such close attention to our child we discovered her hearing loss earlier than most parents, according to her pediatrician, which is why we were able to begin working with her early. So, thanks for assuming the worst about me and stating your opinion twice.

I had actually considered looking into a day care with the monitoring system but someone here admitted that even low level employee know how to "beat the monitor early on" that's an awesome statement, thanks for that.

A very special thank you also for threatening to track down my IP address, that's something that should make you feel very comfortable and says something about you as well, so thank you for outing yourself to your friends as a stalker.

Finally, to the person who asked how I'd feel if my daughter was recorded, google glass is out and no one is going to be able to keep from being recorded, I don't love that but it is the changing times I was talking about. My daughter is video taped at dance recitals and gymnastics class so I'm not going to be able to prevent people from recording her. If someone from her class recorded their child and my child trying to check up on her at school and I found out, I'd want a copy so that I could also check in. Getting enraged because someone records your child is pointless since people can find opportunities to do that even at the park, that's when it's important to be an attentive parent and watch your child.

This is my last correspondence on this forum but feel free to talk among yourselves about my parenting, I won't see it so it won't affect me one way or another.

[playground1]

A very special thank you to the person who threatened to track down my IP address, that's something that should make you feel very comfortable and says something about you as well, so thank you for outing yourself to your friends as a stalker.

Really? Do you feel like your privacy is being invaded because someone might think that you're doing something wrong or illegal? Oh, the irony...