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  • mncare
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 47

    Potty Training 15 Month Old Boy??

    What do you think about that? I was told today that while they are on vacation next week they will be potty training. He has not shown any readiness. I asked if he was showing interest at home and she said "No, but my pediatrician said that in the 1950's kids were potty trained by age one."

    I have heard of people training their kids very early, but they started right away. Have any of you heard of successful training at this age? My daughter was around age two, was very verbal, showed signs of readiness and understood the concept of the sticker chart/M&M for reward.

    I LOVE this family and am never annoyed by them, but this one threw me for a loop. If there are lots of accidents I will just have to get strict on the pullups policy.
  • tmcp2001
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2010
    • 84

    #2
    Honestly, at that age the child isn't potty trained - the parent is trained to watch for signs that the child needs to use the potty and then immediately run them in there. I know lots of people want their child potty trained at an early age (15 month is early to me!) but from experience (my kids are 8.5, 6, 3 and 2) it's just best to wait until they are showing signs of readiness.

    I fought my oldest for about a year - he would have an accident right in front of me and not care at all! It was frustrating and stressful for both of us. He wasn't fully trained (meaning, not having any daytime accidents) until he was nearly four! My 6 and 3 year old both potty trained themselves (older one at just past 3, younger one at 2.5 - day AND night trained). My 2 year old will go when I put her on the potty but she doesn't tell me when she needs to go yet (and isn't all that eager to go either). Not worried about it at all - not worth stressing over!

    Oh, and I don't think a child is potty trained if I have to undress/hold hands/wipe/flush/dress/wash hands with them EVERY TIME. Again - parent is trained, not the child! Less work to change a diaper, !::

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    • MsKara
      Daycare.com Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 65

      #3
      Have fun trying to keep up with a 15 month old "potty trained" kid when they return. That sounds like too much work!!

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      • mncare
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 47

        #4
        Originally posted by MsKara
        Have fun trying to keep up with a 15 month old "potty trained" kid when they return. That sounds like too much work!!
        That's what I think! That is kind of why I posted this, I was hoping for some constructive feedback. I plan on revisiting the potty training section in my contract with her. It is not super specific, but it does say Your child will need to wear pull up diapers until well established, this is for sanitary purposes.

        What would you have said to her when she told you this? IMO this is WAY too young! BUT he is not my kid.

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        • nannyde
          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
          • Mar 2010
          • 7320

          #5
          Originally posted by mncare
          What do you think about that? I was told today that while they are on vacation next week they will be potty training. He has not shown any readiness. I asked if he was showing interest at home and she said "No, but my pediatrician said that in the 1950's kids were potty trained by age one."

          I have heard of people training their kids very early, but they started right away. Have any of you heard of successful training at this age? My daughter was around age two, was very verbal, showed signs of readiness and understood the concept of the sticker chart/M&M for reward.

          I LOVE this family and am never annoyed by them, but this one threw me for a loop. If there are lots of accidents I will just have to get strict on the pullups policy.
          My rule is that the child must be able to verbally tell me that he has to go potty BEFORE he has to go potty before they can even go in pullups. They must be able to SAY the words "I have to go potty" BEFORE they have to go potty. Then once the child says he has to go potty then I put them on the potty and they must GO potty after saying that.

          They have to have two full uninterupted weeks here of telling me they have to go potty BEFORE they have to go potty and being dry before they can go in undies. The most I ever do in pull ups is two weeks.

          My response to the parents would be to tell them the above but highly encourage them to go for it at home. Tell them.. let me know how it goes. If you can get him to SAY the words "I have to go potty" (not signing the words with his hands or you reading his bodily cues) when he has to go then that will facilitate his going potty here. Until then we will just let you guys go for it.

          As long as they don't expect anything to happen in day care you are good. Once they want you to be a part of training a child that can't even talk then you have a problem.

          I had one years ago where the parents put her in pullups at age 18 months. She was not trained until she was almost four. It was rediculous. That was back in the day when pullups were thick and the side bands were padded. I wouldn't dream of using the ones they make now. They are so flimsy and have so little material on the side.
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          • Childminder
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 1500

            #6
            At that age the only ones potty trained would be the parents. My mother raised me and my siblings in the 30's and in the 50's, she said we were all trained before two BUT she was a SAHM and was able to read the signs and knew when we had to go! Some kids can't even walk and/or talk at 15mos. They are just setting themselves up for failure, IMO, and will probably create a monstrous situation because of it. The child because of it will probably be messing his pants until he's 6. Good Luck with that one.
            I see little people.

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            • mncare
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 47

              #7
              This sounds terrible, but I am just hoping that the attempt fails miserably and they will just give up! I am just going to tell her I will work with him here but he will need to be in pullups!

              She said for the week that he is home (and at his gma's house) he will be walking around naked...

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              • Crystal
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 4002

                #8
                I always tell parents that you can wait until he is ready and be done in two days, OR we can start now when he's not ready and we'll be done in 6 months......after alot of uneccessary frustration on both the child's and the parents/providers part.

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                • MarinaVanessa
                  Family Childcare Home
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 7211

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nannyde
                  My rule is that the child must be able to verbally tell me that he has to go potty BEFORE he has to go potty before they can even go in pullups. They must be able to SAY the words "I have to go potty" BEFORE they have to go potty. Then once the child says he has to go potty then I put them on the potty and they must GO potty after saying that.

                  They have to have two full uninterupted weeks here of telling me they have to go potty BEFORE they have to go potty and being dry before they can go in undies. The most I ever do in pull ups is two weeks.
                  This is very close to how I do it. Here is my policy.

                  "During the normal course of a child’s development they become aware of the uncomfortable sensation of toileting in a diaper. Assistance with toilet training will be provided with the understanding that success can only be achieved if we work together.

                  Toilet training must first begin at home when the child shows signs of readiness such as an interest to use the potty, saying he/she needs to go potty etc. Once potty training introduction is made at home and the child shows signs of interest and improvement after two weeks then potty training will begin at daycare as well.

                  Potty training at daycare will begin in regular diapers until the child can verbally notify the childcare provider that he/she must use the toilet before they actually go potty. Once this is accomplished the child is ready to use training diapers at daycare.

                  Training diapers will continue to be used until the child can notify the daycare provider that he/she has to use the toilet, can take him/herself to the bathroom, undress, use the toilet by him/herself, and dress him/herself succesfully and unassisted. When the child can accomplish this successfully for two-weeks without an accident the child is ready to use children's underwear at daycare. If the child has an accident in underwear the child will go back to training diapers until another uninterupted two weeks of have gone by without an accident. If another accident occurs the two week period will start over. Once the child can successfully use the toilet unassisted for two weeks, potty training will be considered successfull"

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                  • katie
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 110

                    #10
                    I have a mother of a 13, yes 13 month old tell me last week that dcb was going to potty train over the 4th. She brought me the plastic underwear and pullups. This child has no words for potty, no ability to tell anyone she has to go. She tells me that there is a hand signal. I am yet to see it. The child will not sit on one of those seperate baby potty thingies, only the big potty so you have to sit there. I said....go for it at home! So she calls me 3 times on Thursday to ask if we are working on the potty. Hello! I have 5 other children here! She said, well we camped out all night in the bathroom and she went once. I said, yep, you keep on doing that! Meanwhile, I have an almost 3 yr old in care that is no where close and the parents are laid back about it like me. Yikes. We will see how it went for the first mom when they return tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.

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                    • Janet

                      #11
                      Potty training

                      My policy is pretty much like Nan's, too. I don't consider a child to be "potty trained" until the child can tell me that they have to go and doesn't pee or poop in the pull up and then tell me that they have to go. I don't consider a child to be potty trained if the parents is sitting them on the toilet every 5 or 10 minutes and on one of those trips the child pees in the potty. That's just luck. I have a no cloth underwear until a child is accident free and daycare for 2 weeks, and in the even that they have an accident after starting in cloth underwear, then they go back to pull-ups until they get more secure in their potty training.

                      I have a theory. I thnk that some parents associate very early potty training with a child being incredibly intelligent and advanced. I think that's BS and I won't be a part of it. A child showing interest in the potty at a year old is not a surefire indicator that a child is ready to be potty trained. It's curiousity. This happened with my daughter and I mistook it for her being ready to potty train. Because of how eager I was about the pottytraining, I found myself getting mad when she would pee or poop on herself. I really set her back with the potty training and she was about 3.5 when I finally got her daytime trained. If I hadn't pushed, then she might have had an easier time with it. There are exceptions to the rule, but in general, a 15 month old child is not ready to potty train.

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                      • MsKara
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 65

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Janet
                        I have a theory. I thnk that some parents associate very early potty training with a child being incredibly intelligent and advanced
                        I think some of them associate it with a rate decrease also. That's why I changed it to say my rates go down when they are potty trained AND at least 3 yrs old.

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                        • nannyde
                          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 7320

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Janet
                          I have a theory. I thnk that some parents associate very early potty training with a child being incredibly intelligent and advanced.
                          Yup it's the first fronteir of their journey for a gifted kid.
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                          • MN Mom
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 399

                            #14
                            My oldest daughter (now 11) was fully potty trained by 13 months. She started showing interest at 11 months. I didn't really train her, either. It was really self interest. She was walking by 8 months old (seriously!!) and her first phrases at 10 months were "I want a puppy" and "Happy Birthday". She always followed me into the bathroom, and just mocked what I did on her little potty seat we had on the floor. By 12 months she was pulling down her diapers and sitting to copy me and by 13 months she would tell me when she had to go.

                            It IS possible for a young child to be "trained", however, I don't think its very common. I think my daughter is just weird!! My 9 year old wasn't trained until 2 years, my 7 year old: 3 years and my son....he was a pill and didn't really get it until 3.5. He's 4.5 now and STILL has day time accidents when he's too busy playing to care.

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                            • momma2girls
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2283

                              #15
                              THis is what I have in my contract- I will assist in potty training- this needs to be started at home and child making good progress and totally understand the concept of it, before I will assist with it here. Pullups are required until totally potty trained(this means goes on their own without assistance and reminders from myself) I placed this in last yr. this is very good, and let's parents know just when you will start it here.

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