I'm Struggling....

**SilverSabre25** · 08-22-2012, 03:32 PM

"Staying dry while asleep is a physical development, not a mental one. Just like with potty training in the first place, it won't happen until his body is ready. Until that time, he needs "sleep underpants" (pull-ups or diapers or whatever) to change into before nap."

gosh, one or two diapers/pull-ups a day isn't exactly going to kill their budget...

**Countrygal** · 08-22-2012, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by SilverSabre25

"Staying dry while asleep is a physical development, not a mental one. Just like with potty training in the first place, it won't happen until his body is ready. Until that time, he needs "sleep underpants" (pull-ups or diapers or whatever) to change into before nap."

gosh, one or two diapers/pull-ups a day isn't exactly going to kill their budget...

Yeah, I agree. I already gave them quite a HUGE break on care for the remainder of the summer for their two school-age kids. Honestly, though, around here a diaper a day CAN kill some people's budget. I live in a very depressed area. Very low income area. It's sometimes hard to know just what to do.

**cheerfuldom** · 08-22-2012, 04:06 PM

Buy the diapers yourself and then charge them. If they dont like the charge, they can provide cheaper diapers. Send home a copy of your pottying policy and meal/drink policies and state clearly what you can and cannot do. If they dont like, they can find a new daycare.

**daycare** · 08-22-2012, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by cheerfuldom

Buy the diapers yourself and then charge them. If they dont like the charge, they can provide cheaper diapers. Send home a copy of your pottying policy and meal/drink policies and state clearly what you can and cannot do. If they dont like, they can find a new daycare.

this!!!! I would be buying pull ups and charging them. Or I would be sending them my carpet cleaning bill.....

**slpender** · 08-22-2012, 05:25 PM

Do you think they would consider using the lined underpants just for nap time. I know target sells them in the infant area in packages of 2 I think they come in girl and boy prints then they could just be washed and returned or you could wash them and just keep at your house. It might help with the cost factor because they are able to be used over and over.

**Countrygal** · 08-22-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by slpender

Do you think they would consider using the lined underpants just for nap time. I know target sells them in the infant area in packages of 2 I think they come in girl and boy prints then they could just be washed and returned or you could wash them and just keep at your house. It might help with the cost factor because they are able to be used over and over.

Do these hold as much as a diaper? I mean, today there was a huge puddle under his cot, and that was after pants, blanket and cot were soaked! I've never tried these. Can you tell me more about them? Is it the Econobums? They look like something I would certainly try. And if the diapers are gonna be such a big issue, maybe I'll just purchase one of these and charge them for it. Wish they said how big they will cover.....

Daycare, you said: "Or I would be sending them my carpet cleaning bill...." Now that's not a bad idea. One way to get my rug cleaned!

Cheerfuldom, thanks for the idea. It may be worth a try! And I definitely will copy my policies and provide an explanation in writing. Good idea!

**daycare** · 08-22-2012, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Countrygal

Do these hold as much as a diaper? I mean, today there was a huge puddle under his cot, and that was after pants, blanket and cot were soaked! I've never tried these. Can you tell me more about them? Is it the Econobums? They look like something I would certainly try. And if the diapers are gonna be such a big issue, maybe I'll just purchase one of these and charge them for it. Wish they said how big they will cover.....

Daycare, you said: "Or I would be sending them my carpet cleaning bill...." Now that's not a bad idea. One way to get my rug cleaned!

Cheerfuldom, thanks for the idea. It may be worth a try! And I definitely will copy my policies and provide an explanation in writing. Good idea!

carpet bill, been there, done that...

Had a family of a 5 year old not PT that insisted sending her in underwear...... Kid finally pooped on my carpet, so I sent the carpet cleaning bill home with them. $85.00 one room...

**saved4always** · 08-22-2012, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by SilverSabre25

"Staying dry while asleep is a physical development, not a mental one. Just like with potty training in the first place, it won't happen until his body is ready. Until that time, he needs "sleep underpants" (pull-ups or diapers or whatever) to change into before nap."

gosh, one or two diapers/pull-ups a day isn't exactly going to kill their budget...

I totally agree with this. I don't understand why some parents make such a big deal about not wearing pull ups at naps. With my own children, staying dry at night (or during nap) did not happen at the same time as they were completely potty trained during the day. It was maybe a year later for my oldest and youngest to get out of pull ups at night. My middle child was quite a bit longer...I think it was because he was a much harder sleeper than the other 2 so he didn't wake up when he needed to go.

No way would I let a child wet my bed or pack n play every day. What a mess.

I would insist on the parents bringing pull ups for nap time. Either that or they get the bill for a new matress and bedding.

**saved4always** · 08-22-2012, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by daycare

carpet bill, been there, done that...

Had a family of a 5 year old not PT that insisted sending her in underwear...... Kid finally pooped on my carpet, so I sent the carpet cleaning bill home with them. $85.00 one room...

Did they pay the bill?

**daycare** · 08-22-2012, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by saved4always

Did they pay the bill?

yup and boy were they mad.... the child was off to kinder in the fall, so thank god it was only another month or so before we parted ways...

**DCMama** · 08-22-2012, 09:23 PM

This may be a silly comment but how about you give them a trial period, Like I will help you with your child on the wet sleeping thing for like a week but if things don't get better they need to start bringing diapers. Also, let them clean all the laundry that the kid wet on so they know what a pain that is. Before the kid take a nap make him sit on the toilet for a while (you may have tried this...). I think the parents don't know how it feel until they are fully involve. Maybe you should keep them involve by telling them all the ways you have tried but if it's still unsuccessful then they should really get you some diapers. Good luck with this sticky sitch.

**Countrygal** · 08-23-2012, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by DCMama

This may be a silly comment but how about you give them a trial period, Like I will help you with your child on the wet sleeping thing for like a week but if things don't get better they need to start bringing diapers. Also, let them clean all the laundry that the kid wet on so they know what a pain that is. Before the kid take a nap make him sit on the toilet for a while (you may have tried this...). I think the parents don't know how it feel until they are fully involve. Maybe you should keep them involve by telling them all the ways you have tried but if it's still unsuccessful then they should really get you some diapers. Good luck with this sticky sitch.

Unfortunately, I did all of the above. The father who I am dealing with never has "time" to stop and talk about anything. He can't even look at the projects they did that day.

Supposedly the "mother" is bringing the diapers, but since she hasn't even brought their signed copy of the contract, I'm not holding my breath. This is a separated m/f situation, with them both trying to work out custody. It is, like I said, a very hard thing to go through.

**My3cents** · 08-23-2012, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Countrygal

I have a new dcf. There are lots of issues with the family, but I'm trying to work with them. They're going through a hard time right now. But I could really use some ideas on this one:

Dcb (just turned 3), wets the bed during nap. Parents do NOT want to bring diapers. They want me to not give him anything to drink for 1 1/2 hours before nap. In the first place, we take nap shortly after lunch and I am REQUIRED to serve milk. Secondly, if I don't serve this child anything to drink from noon to 1:30, then he naps, and they don't serve him anything to drink before bed and then he sleeps, this child is basically dehydrated for 16 hours or so a day!!! IMO, that is just not right. I COULD completely re-arrange my schedule and see if it works for him to stay dry, but is this fair to the other children and families? I am in a quandary..... Today I insisted they bring diapers, but I got arguments and even a little anger.

Help me, here, please???? Seems like a simple problem, but somehow it is big to me.

I hate arguing with clients who don't care to understand your side of things.....

not reading ahead to the other replies here are my thoughts....

This is your daycare! If the child is potty trained, except for nap time, then he has a pull up on for nap time. It is not sanitary and it is your home, your rules, your daycare.

I say this numerous times, because someone helped me out on this forum, several someones I might add and drilled it into me....... so I hope that I pass this on and I say it often......... Have a rule/policy/hand book and a contract. Don't be intimidated by your parents and tell them your schedule doesn't allow for what they are asking. Put it back on them and don't feel bad about it. It is one thing to help out and try to accommodate, but ultimately you have to do what is best for you and your group.

If the parents don't comply call them at work and tell them they need to bring you what you need or come pick up the child. <---- last resort. If they come in the morning and they don't have what the child needs, ask them to go and get it. If your busy and you forget to ask or look, follow through with a call on the cell phone or work.

Your not out of line, your asking them to bring in what the child needs for the day.

Best-

**littlemissmuffet** · 08-23-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by Countrygal

I have a new dcf. There are lots of issues with the family, but I'm trying to work with them. They're going through a hard time right now. But I could really use some ideas on this one:

Dcb (just turned 3), wets the bed during nap. Parents do NOT want to bring diapers. They want me to not give him anything to drink for 1 1/2 hours before nap. In the first place, we take nap shortly after lunch and I am REQUIRED to serve milk. Secondly, if I don't serve this child anything to drink from noon to 1:30, then he naps, and they don't serve him anything to drink before bed and then he sleeps, this child is basically dehydrated for 16 hours or so a day!!! IMO, that is just not right. I COULD completely re-arrange my schedule and see if it works for him to stay dry, but is this fair to the other children and families? I am in a quandary..... Today I insisted they bring diapers, but I got arguments and even a little anger.

Help me, here, please???? Seems like a simple problem, but somehow it is big to me.

I hate arguing with clients who don't care to understand your side of things.....

I don't rearrange my schedule for ANYONE, EVER.

I don't allow parents to come into my home/business and tell me how to operate. Most of these parents have ONE child to raise - I have MANY. I know what works best in that environment.

The parents are dead wrong in this case. The child needs to be in a dipe/pull up during nap rather than being deprived of a basic human necessity such as liquid.

My reaction would be "You can bring me pull ups tomorrow without further argument or issue, or else you can start looking for a new daycare because I refuse to partake in purposely dehydrating your child."

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