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You know what gets my goat? I looked up title 22 to get the quote for you (I had a general idea where the regulation should be but had never looked it up) and I found nothing that said anything about pack n plays or cribs ... nothing. I found the place that talked about the walkers and somewhere near there should have been where the regulation should have been about the sleeping in pack n plays and such. The reason I even knew about it was because licensing told me about it. So what gets me is that I hate it that every time that someone comes for an inspection I get told something different. I need to start checking the regulations myself instead of taking their word for it. I'm calling them tomorrow. There are a lot of things that I found rediculous that they have asked of me that I have followed through on but did not see ANY of it in the regulations. How are we as providers supposed to know what the regulations are if they are not posted on the licensing website??
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It's tough in CA. MarinaVanessa - what you are finding on ccld.ca.gov for title 22 is the state standards, but each county is allowed to interpret those regs as they choose. So, each county or regional area really has it's own set of standards that we don't see. If a licensing agent does not like something in your program, they can "interpret" the regs to cite you with a violation - and if you do not challenge it through legal channels, you have to just accept it.
My county allows us to put the children in Pak and Plays, but we are not allowed to leave them out of sight/sound, and we cannot use bouncers, exersaucers, walkers, doorway bouncers/swings, etc. But, I have heard of many counties that do not allow children to be in pak and plays unless sleeping - because it is not CCLD Regulations, you COULD challenge that if you were ever cited, and you'd likely win.Comment
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To the original topic....
Sounds like Mom is on the same page in regards to not allowing bad behavior....glad to see she did not allow her daughter to get away with mistreating the baby.
The baby sounds like he is REALLY stressed out, which will work itself out most likely, given time to transition - but if it goes on too long, at home and at daycare, I would consider other possibilities. He may have a sensory processing disorder, which would have to be diagnosed by a specialist. His "behaviors" indicate signs of SPD - so I would document it and conduct an informal assessment to decide if I should refer Mom to outside resources.
Some of the techniques, such as the layers of socks over the hands, that Nanny advised could prove very effective. Another thing to try, in the case of SPD, would be to "brush" his hands. If you have a baby brush, or even something a bit stiffer, gently brush his hands, tops and palms, for a few minutes. This stimulates the nerve endings and rids him of the need to pinch. Sounds wierd I know, but I had a little boy who had SPD, and this worked WONDERS for him.
Of course, there are LOTS of things it could be, but those are a couple of things that came to mind
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Hmm, that makes sense I guess ... and in a way it doesn't (but that's the county for you). I live in Ventura county and I've been told that:
-sleeping babies in cribs and pack n plays only.
-can leave them in another room sleeping but have to be checked on every 15 minutes.
-no bouncers, excersaucers, walkers, doorway bouncers/swings.
-regular swings ok but they can't be sleeping in them.
-Kids in carseats always (obviously) but can't leave a child in a carseat if the car is stopped even if the child is sleeping and/or you take the carseat out and bring it in to the house with you. Actually you can't leave children in a parked car period even if you are with them (this one I did find in the regulations).
-Children in high-chairs must be eating otherwise they can't be in there even if you are preparing food (I throw a handful of cheerios on the tray while I prepare food). I'm sure there is more but I can't think of any right now.
I'm still calling tomorrow.
I thought of this also and have already started to write everything down. I'll look into it some more and do some more research before I approach the parents. I even thought about contacting someone to come by and observe him here if it continues past 2 weeks but unfortunately I can't do that without the parent's permission so I want to make sure that I have concrete proof before approaching them.
I have already decided to try the layering of the socks the next time he is here. I don't have long sleeve outfits for the baby since it's been so hot but I figure that I can put a couple pairs of my daughters socks on his hands and then put a pair of my own tube socks over them to cover all the way to his arms. He hasn't managed to roll my daughter's socks down yet so maybe it would work until then. I tried socks on his hands today but layers of socks is brilliant.
I'll try this also and see if it helps. I caress him with my hands but that doesn't calm him down. I'll try it with his baby brush.
Thanks for the ideas gals.Comment
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No Nanny...that's the thing. They can and do interpret things as they choose....if you end up with a violation, it is up to the provider to challenge it and prove that it is not in the Ca. regulations. I think that if it's not in the regs, and a county licensor gives you a citation anyway, it SHOULD be fairly easy to challenge and win.
Another thing that Ca. does is, due to budgets, they no longer (and haven't for some time) send providers updates when regs change. It is up to the provider to check the website regularly for any changes. I check once a month, just in case - I don't want to get in trouble because I wasn't aware of a change.Comment
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Yup and even then within the same county it looks like it depends on each licensing worker individually and what they believe to be correct or incorrect. When I had my initial walkthrough it went very quickly and very smoothly. She even complimented my baby proofing and said that everything was great and that she hadn't seen a house this safe ever.
The next time I had licensing come by she was a royal pain in my behind. She complained about having knives on my counter and them not being locked up ... I reminded her that I have a safety gate up to keep the kids out of the kitchen and that even if I didn't they were not within reach of any young child (my own 8 year-old nephew can't even reach them). She complained that my solvents and cleaners were not locked up and that neither was my under-sink cabinet ... I explained that my solvents and cleaners are on a high shelf above the pantry and that even I have to get a stool to get anything and sometimes I have to climb on the counter to reach the one's in the middle and back and that under the sink there is nothing dangerous, just paper towel rolls, terry cloths, toilet paper and disposable dishes and plastic ware. She also complained that my medicine cabinets don't have locks on them ... but there isn't any medicine or even sunblock and stuff like that in there so WTH?? She ended up leaving without giving me any kind of citation but was all huffy and puffy.
The next time someone came in I was told that kids should not be sleeping on the couch because they could fall down and hurt themselves. The last time someone from licensing came I was told that they could
. Looks to me like it all depends on each individuals opinion rather than any real set regulations.
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I swear I have never heard a "yodle" cry, in all my 25 years of caring for children (2 years professionally)! I come from a huge (150+ people) extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins - on down). I almost want you to record that cry because I'm very curious. Trust me, I believe you completely! I'm just a little intrigued. But then again, maybe I don't want to hear it!! LOL!Comment
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I did record it actually ... on my phone. My fiance called me to check on me and he just laughed when I told him she had yodled so I recorded it to let him hear it. I also recorded the little one. He was speechless in both cases.
If I had a way to take it from my phone and put it on the internet I'd provide a link just so you could hear it. Then all you'd have to do it put it on repeat and let it play for 45 minutes and you'd get what I go through
. They're not here today but they'll be back tomorrow. I'll see if I can find a mic and record it with my laptop .
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Okay so Friday is finally over. Looks like 2 yo is really getting it that I make the rules and that I don't acknowledge crying and whining. She did MUCH better today. Even nap time was better. She immediately laid down and after 30minutes she did finally sleep. One time today she started to cry but I ignored it and she did stop and repeat herself calmy and said please.
The 6 mo however is deffinetely teething. Slobber all over everything. Can see two little buds today. Mom said he fussed with her yesterday and she brought me tylenol and a prescription ... god bless the mom. Had the waiver signed and voahlah! I only had to give it once today which was good. Nothing else at the time seemed to work, terry cloths, ice cubes, froxen teethers, teething toys. Last resort was tylenol. Baby just wants to be in arms tho. Sorry buddy ... gotta do tummy time ... have other kids also.
The scratching thing worked out better today. Put 2 pair of my daughter's socks on his hands and tube socks up to his arms. He still hasn't managed to roll or pull them down so that's great. Socks seem to work. He can't actually pull anything anymore so looks like he's beginning to lose interest. Was mad as hell at first though. I tried the brush thing on his hands and arms thing but he just wanted to take the brush and put it in his mouth. Not really paying attention to how it feels on him. I think the soft bristles helped his gums tho (don't worry, new brush and has already been through the disinfectant cycle).
So far so good.Comment
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glad to hear it! hopefully things only get better!!Proverbs 12:1
A reminder to myself when I resist learning something new.Comment
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