I Need Help With How To Proceed. Too Mad To Think Clearly-HELP!

**countrymom** · 05-17-2012, 05:47 AM

save them the diaper and the clothes and send them all home with him. I had a kid like this, made everyone sick for months. dad always gave me an excuse. When I came back from vacation, I came to find out that he was so sick that gma didn't know what to do. I told them that he couldn't come back till I had a dr's note. He didn't come back, but I suspect he has something and dad didn't want to tell me. I never ever had children so sick till I started with this kid and it all led back to him.

**Countrygal** · 05-17-2012, 05:47 AM

I can't help with the terming, sorry, but I hope it all goes well.

If the diarrhea has a really sick smell and is recurring, I would definitely suggest they have him tested for an intestinal bacteria. It sounds very much like one to me.

Hope it all works out!

**SilverSabre25** · 05-17-2012, 06:17 AM

I left on bad terms with dcfamily's best friends last year. I still have dcfamily and nothing changed with that. So, there's some hope.

It was really bad terms, too. Involving false accusations of abuse, etc. I was prepared to lose dcfamily but didn't. They're still here and bringing kid #2 to me.

**SunshineMama** · 05-17-2012, 06:17 AM

That is where I am- I have never really had sick kids until this one showed up, and it has been problem after problem.

I suggested to dcp's, based on the frequency and consistency and smell that it seems to be some sort of "bug" but they refuse to believe me because he is always so happy.

I need help mostly with terming a "friend" and how to delicately do it.

**Blackcat31** · 05-17-2012, 06:26 AM

First thing you need to do is stop worrying about WHY someone has diarrhea. They do. PERIOD. That is how you need to explain it to the parents as well. You need to say, it doesn't matter why he has diarrhea and whether or not he is happy. I currently have 2 kids out with diarrhea and both of them are happy as clams with no mood changes at all.

The reason you send kids home who has diarrhea is so that the spread of potential illness is avoided and since there is no possible way to know 100% if the diarrhea is from something he ate, or from teething or simply because he just has it means he HAS to go home.

I tell my parents that WHY is the last part of any discussion when it comes to fever, diarrhea and rashes...etc. If they have them, the kids go home according to CDC recommendations. We can discuss the why later but it mostly just fluff talk.

If they have certain symptoms, they go home.

As far as the letter to term if you still wish to do so I can help you with that if you want. Just PM me and let me know....

FWIW~ some kids are just sicker than others. It doesnt always have to do with eating, sleeping or diet....some are just that way.

**Meeko** · 05-17-2012, 06:55 AM

Even if he's not "ill"....uncontrollable poop all over a daycare is a health hazard!

It doesn't matter if he's a healthy/happy pooper or not!

Term them and explain it's not personal...you just have to keep the other kids healthy and you can't do that with poop all over the place.

**cheerfuldom** · 05-17-2012, 07:00 AM

Have they ever taken him to a doctor? Perhaps you would feel better if they actually addressed the issue? It could be as simple as changing his formula but like you said, no matter what the reason why, you cannot keep cleaning him up every change. I would be honest and say that I feel the issue needs to be addressed. If they disagree, you will let them look for a daycare that provides sick care so that he is not being constantly sent home all the time. You cannot provide care for a child that has these issues so much and you don't want to have to send him home weekly. I would give them one more chance to show that they are prepared to deal with the issue or choose on their own to go to another daycare. That way THEY are choosing.

**texascare** · 05-17-2012, 07:04 AM

Where I live we have health standards set forth by daycare licensing that include diarreah. Explain to them (if your state has this) that you have to go by the licensing standards. Let them know it is a health hazzard and how would they like it if another child was doing the same thing? Is anyone else getting sick with diarreah? If they are explain that he is contagious!

**SunshineMama** · 05-17-2012, 07:06 AM

Thanks for all of your responses! Cheerful- I have already given them multiple chances so Im terming tomorrow 100%. Blackcat- I PM'd you.

I wish I had taken the approach earlier that it does not matter "why," but the fact that he had symptoms is the issue. They will not even acknowledge that it is diaharrea- they call it, "loose stools."

**cheerfuldom** · 05-17-2012, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by SunshineMama

Thanks for all of your responses! Cheerful- I have already given them multiple chances so Im terming tomorrow 100%. Blackcat- I PM'd you.

I wish I had taken the approach earlier that it does not matter "why," but the fact that he had symptoms is the issue. They will not even acknowledge that it is diaharrea- they call it, "loose stools."

okay well you do what you need to do. I'm sorry they are too dense to see that "loose stools" is a real health concern. He could be fighting the same nasty virus over and over, getting dehydrated and such. I hope this is a wake up call for them but it might take a few providers saying the same thing until they realize that this is about THEM and not YOU.

**CheekyChick** · 05-17-2012, 07:08 AM

If you want to stay on good terms, I would write a note like this:

Dear DCM,

It has been a pleasure working with your adorable son over the past (BLANK) months. He is truly a special little boy. Unfortunately, I have realized with my pregnancy and new baby on the way that I must cut down on enrollment. I am giving you two weeks to find new arrangements which means that I will no longer be able to care for "poopy boy" after June 1, 2012.

Warm regards,
Sick of sickies

**SunshineMama** · 05-17-2012, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by CheekyChick

If you want to stay on good terms, I would write a note like this:

Dear DCM,

It has been a pleasure working with your adorable son over the past (BLANK) months. He is truly a special little boy. Unfortunately, I have realized with my pregnancy and new baby on the way that I must cut down on enrollment. I am giving you two weeks to find new arrangements which means that I will no longer be able to care for "poopy boy" after June 1, 2012.

Warm regards,
Sick of sickies

Lol I needed that laugh (poopy boy)! Good letter! What do I say to the parents? I don't want to just stick a letter in his bag. I'm a non confrontational chicken but I am going to stand my ground on this one.

**mrsp'slilpeeps** · 05-17-2012, 07:34 AM

OK IMHO, once you smell rotavirus, you will always know the smell.

He needs to have a stool sample tested and a doctors note stating what it is.

IF it's rotavirus, he needs to be at home. The diarehha lasts for almost 2 weeks.

It is very contagious.

**SunshineMama** · 05-17-2012, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by mrsp'slilpeeps

OK IMHO, once you smell rotavirus, you will always know the smell.

He needs to have a stool sample tested and a doctors note stating what it is.

IF it's rotavirus, he needs to be at home. The diarehha lasts for almost 2 weeks.

It is very contagious.

I feel very strongly that it is definitely some sort of a virus, and it had a VERY specific smell to it.

I have suggested the doctor to them and they still maintain it is teething and/or food. Every excuse in the book. I can't even get them to call the doctor.

Really, I'm terming the parents, because it's not the child's fault

I Need Help With How To Proceed. Too Mad To Think Clearly-HELP!

I Need Help With How To Proceed. Too Mad To Think Clearly-HELP!

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