DCM Didn't Sign Transportation Consent

[Auntie]

Maybe you could approach her and say I was wondering if you were still feeling uncomfortable about me transporting your child in my vehical during daycare hours?
Then she can say yes or no.
Then you can say that you have had a situation come up where you need to be able to be mobile with the children. If she is not you can then say well I am so sorry you will have to consider this your two week notice to find new daycare. Or something like that.

[Childminder]

Did she wind up letting him go???

She did after that and he was with me for 3 more years. We still communicate and they visit occasionally. Now I state upfront in interviews that a permission slip for transport must be sign for acceptance into childcare. I am open 6days a week, days and evenings so The little ones have to be allowed to travel on errands or I would never get anything done.

Same thing with the photo permission slip. One mom did not want her child's photo taken and did not sign it. She wanted to know why I was always putting everyone but his pics in the newsletters, in mother's day frames, up on the board. What? She signed the slip at her next contract renewal.

[MarinaVanessa]

Thank you ladies for your helpfull responses. I will have to have a talk with her so hopefully this week. I made the comment about cookies because as we all know ... you catch more flies with sugar than vinegar. She's a nice mom so hopefully she will understand and not want to go somewhere else.

Fortunately for me I do have a policy in my handbook that says that we go on walks and outings and we either walk or drive and if they don't want their child leaving my home or riding in a car then they can keep their child home for the day. So she knows that I go places with the kids and we take walks to the park (the SAME psrk that we would be driving to) but I'll also be adding 2 more trips a day.

She can agree or she can find somewhere else to go. I hope she chooses to stay.

[Christian Mother]

I think I am really lucky bc all my parents are great in regards to allowing me to take them out...some times we head to a splash park that is free or to the mall to play in the play area...I've never had a problem. Not this coming up school yr but next I will need to inform all the parents that I will need to transport my daughter to Kindergarten. I am not worried about there reactions. I think I am more worried that I don't have the car space for 1 baby and 3 toddlers plus my daughter. Time to get a new vehicle.

At pick up I would keep her maybe 10 min and briefly let her know in advance that there will be some changes that will effect her. Explain that starting next month. This will allow her plenty of time to either find a new daycare or be aware of the changes. If you approach her that this is non negotiable then she will look at it as such as well. Hopefully she will be understanding. It kind of the norm now with daycare providers that offer care in there homes. I hope she is understanding with you.

[MarinaVanessa]

I think I am really lucky bc all my parents are great in regards to allowing me to take them out

I was lucky in this regards too until this new DCM. I gave her everything to read and look through before she signed up but she didn't want to sign the waiver for transportation. At the time is was no big deal, we walked everywhere anyway but then I got a van and then I got notice that I was going to pick up and drop off my daughter at school. She said she understood that she wouldn't be able to bring DCB if we went out in the car but I don't think she was counting on multiple trips a day everyday because neither was I.

I don't want to lose the income but as of next month she'll either have to allow me to transport her son or find another daycare. I got a call from a teacher today for 2 kids. This is kind of new territory for me (teacher's kids) so I'll be looking up old threads on people handle teacher schedules later tonight. I at least want to keep dcm on until next month and hopefully this family signs up and starts once school begins next months. I can even help DCM find another DC. I know two that have a spot open that's perfect for him and the provider's are great. They even do preschool once a week at one of the provider's houses. I'd still get to see him because I wanted to do preschool too and drive the kids over to her house once a week. I know the other families I have would be excited.

[Christian Mother]

Sounds like it will really work out for you in the end!! Neither of you I am sure exspected this but we have to be able to adapt well to diff. changes. It's part of life and if she isn't comfortable in this change then it's best to part ways. And like you said you can provide her with some other DCP recommendations. If you express to her that you are sorry but there really isn't anything you can do about this and that you understand if she'd like to change DCP but you'd really like to continue providing care she would probably really appreciate that. If not then you can def. check in with the care of the other 2 kido's. I have a teacher in my group and she is wonderful to work with. She gets all the same days my children get off and holiday's. Summer time she does summer school so I still have her child most of the week other than fri. although there are a lot of fri. I do have him. I am some what diff. then most providers on here as I don't charge when a child isn't in my care. I don't charge holding fees or the 2 weeks deposit. Just that they give me 2 weeks notice when they will be leaving. So far I've had all my kido's since I started except one and that was due to the first issue of disrespect I received and I termed right on the spot. If I provide care at a reasonable rate and you treat me like a doormat, your going to find your self with out a DCP. ::

[Unregistered]

Make her sign

I would have made her sign it regardless of her feelings right from the get-go. What if your daughter was sick at school, or there was an emergency. Without that consent, you can't go anywhere in a vehicle with her child.

But at this point I would just lay it out there. "I have to drive dd back and forth to school and with this heat we will be taking the car to the park instead of walking. I'll need you to sign the permission to travel consent form by Monday"

This gives her the weekend to mull it over and get it back to you. having her find alternate care just for field trip days doesn't really sound reasonable because you'd have to have your schedule down and sometimes that is hard.

When parents ask if we go places I say yes, if they don't like they find alternate care. Having them keep their children home on field trip days are not an option for my daycare. Our field trips are generally spur of the moment. (I just decided this morning that we're going to the farm)

[Unregistered]

But also - its important to do the work to make mom comfortable for trips to the park, library, etc.

Let her know WHERE and WHEN. How will it go - carseat, check off in and out, HOW will you prevent losing one?

You are not asking to ride the child around all day for errands? You want to do specific things. Or - you want to do to and from school....can mom adjust to this?

Offer your driving record, insurance covering kids, a check out of your vehicle, explain how car seats are used - can she install hers permanently and have it checked?

How many kids in the car at once?

Its really scary.

Scanning all these posts....
* Insurance *? Really! Insurance is good for medical bills, or replacing your car - not my child. *&#^$&*()@(*
A good driving record means what? That you won't be driving next to the bad drivers? Maybe you have some special good driver roads you travel on that no accidents could occur on? It's why they call them accidents - no one expects them to happen.
*#$&*$&($*#(*

I don't care how you reason with the risks, you wouldn't do it with my irreplaceable child. I agree with 'daycare' and I would remove my child from 'daycare' or anyone else who would even attempt to rationalize or negotiate the risk of my child against that child's parents will.

Reading these posts just makes me question what my day care is trying to rationalize in their own mind without telling me. - scary to read some of these arguments. unauthorized taking of a child is nothing less than child abduction - even if you do return the child.
This is what happened to me today - my franchise day care signed my daughter up to a field trip and took her without our knowledge or consent until after the fact. It was a field trip which I felt didn't add anything to her development, and could only have potential for danger in the neighborhood they were traveling to.
I've been scanning posts on the internet to understand how, why, and what I should do.

Tragic that it seems so many people in the day care profession in this post sound like they can negotiate with the child's safety and rationalize the risks or would attempt to sway a careful parent to take additional risks unnecessarily.

What happens when you convince a parent to let you take their child - and the unfortunate happens. Would you go on your merry way - maybe saying.... it was OK with the parent!

I don't want a day care that would even consider trying to sway my opinion of what I think is an acceptable risk.

[rhymia1]

Scanning all these posts....
* Insurance *? Really! Insurance is good for medical bills, or replacing your car - not my child. *&#^$&*()@(*
A good driving record means what? That you won't be driving next to the bad drivers? Maybe you have some special good driver roads you travel on that no accidents could occur on? It's why they call them accidents - no one expects them to happen.
*#$&*$&($*#(*

I don't care how you reason with the risks, you wouldn't do it with my irreplaceable child. I agree with 'daycare' and I would remove my child from 'daycare' or anyone else who would even attempt to rationalize or negotiate the risk of my child against that child's parents will.

Reading these posts just makes me question what my day care is trying to rationalize in their own mind without telling me. - scary to read some of these arguments. unauthorized taking of a child is nothing less than child abduction - even if you do return the child.
This is what happened to me today - my franchise day care signed my daughter up to a field trip and took her without our knowledge or consent until after the fact. It was a field trip which I felt didn't add anything to her development, and could only have potential for danger in the neighborhood they were traveling to.
I've been scanning posts on the internet to understand how, why, and what I should do.

Tragic that it seems so many people in the day care profession in this post sound like they can negotiate with the child's safety and rationalize the risks or would attempt to sway a careful parent to take additional risks unnecessarily.

What happens when you convince a parent to let you take their child - and the unfortunate happens. Would you go on your merry way - maybe saying.... it was OK with the parent!

I don't want a day care that would even consider trying to sway my opinion of what I think is an acceptable risk.

I don't think anyone was saying that they would take a child without permission? You, as a parent, have the choice of where to send your child for care. The onus is on the parent to find care that works for them. We also take field trips and I have transported DCkids to preschool. I make it clear from the get go that we travel. I have appropriate/PROPERLY used car/booster seats for the children in my care. If that's a problem for the parent then they need to go with another provider. I won't beg, plead, cajole or otherwise try to sway anyone's opinion. This is the service *I* provide. Take it or leave it.
FWIW, many parents in my area won't go with a provider who won't transport to preschool.

[Cat Herder]

I all honesty I do not transport because the risk, cost and added work is just not worth it to me.

With that said, if I did transport and a parent refused to sign the agreement I never would have accepted them into care.

If, as a parent, you choose NOT to have your child transported...then choose a daycare that does NOT transport.

IMHO, It is unfair and selfish to expect a business to change their program to suit your wishes over the other parents.

If your child's class is going on a field trip and you don't want yours to go... Keep them home.

Maybe some centers have another person available to keep kids that have been left behind...maybe choose one of those centers if you know it is going to be an issue for you.

Pick the appropriate daycare for your needs and wishes. Don't try to change the program after the fact.

[familyschoolcare]

Scanning all these posts....
* Insurance *? Really! Insurance is good for medical bills, or replacing your car - not my child. *&#^$&*()@(*
A good driving record means what? That you won't be driving next to the bad drivers? Maybe you have some special good driver roads you travel on that no accidents could occur on? It's why they call them accidents - no one expects them to happen.
*#$&*$&($*#(*

I don't care how you reason with the risks, you wouldn't do it with my irreplaceable child. I agree with 'daycare' and I would remove my child from 'daycare' or anyone else who would even attempt to rationalize or negotiate the risk of my child against that child's parents will.

Reading these posts just makes me question what my day care is trying to rationalize in their own mind without telling me. - scary to read some of these arguments. unauthorized taking of a child is nothing less than child abduction - even if you do return the child.
This is what happened to me today - my franchise day care signed my daughter up to a field trip and took her without our knowledge or consent until after the fact. It was a field trip which I felt didn't add anything to her development, and could only have potential for danger in the neighborhood they were traveling to.
I've been scanning posts on the internet to understand how, why, and what I should do.

Tragic that it seems so many people in the day care profession in this post sound like they can negotiate with the child's safety and rationalize the risks or would attempt to sway a careful parent to take additional risks unnecessarily.

What happens when you convince a parent to let you take their child - and the unfortunate happens. Would you go on your merry way - maybe saying.... it was OK with the parent!

I don't want a day care that would even consider trying to sway my opinion of what I think is an acceptable risk.

This was not about a provider doing something with out the permission of a parent.

My liability insurance covers anything that might happen if I transport children.

Not signing the transportation slip is not an option in my program. I understand why some parent are uncomfortable with my transporting them any where if that is the case then my family day care is not a good fit for them. You see I have older children of my own live in a four-plex with no backyard so in the summer and on school holidays we go on a daily field trip. during the school year I have to take my children and the other children in my care to school. I do have all the field trips scheduled and give it to the parents weeks to months in advanced.

As a parent you have the right to not place your child where they will be transported to other places. As a daycare provider I have the right to run my program any way I want as long as it is legal.